GO-GO BARS:

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If you like GoGo Bars I can save you a lot of reading time and tell you to look at the Angeles info. The Manila GoGo scene (Makati and EDSA) is crap (personal opinion). For those who want to read about Manila GoGo scene : .

There are two main Manila GoGo areas. Firstly Makati, where some would argue are the prettiest go-go girls in the Philippines. Also pretty heavy prices. The second area is EDSA . These areas are rivalled by an even bigger go-go area in Angeles City, less than two hours away (traffic permitting). Enjoyable as these places can be, always take care with your chit/bill. Those little bits of paper they keep dropping in the cup in front of you. Clarify the cost of everything (including Ladies Drinks) before you commit yourself. The tough pro' (whorist) checks each chit as its placed in the cup , otherwise he pays as the drinks are delivered. That way, no "misunderstandings".

In the higher priced places , just because your buying a lot of LD's (Ladies Drinks) doesnt guarantee the girl will go with you. Some girls do very well 'selling' LD's at inflated prices , and have a Filipino boy friend waiting for them outside when they finish work. Also it happens , where the guy pays for all night and after the first poke she's off and back to the bar/wherever , looking for another 'fish'. In such cases , the bar management will support the girl , so its best just to cop it on the chin , if this happens.

Before committing yourself, wherever you are , make sure everything is clear, the cost of your drinks, ladies drinks, bar fine and how long the girl is staying with you. It's unfortunate you have to go about it like this , but it will greatly reduce the possibility of any 'misunderstandings' : ) and it also let's them know your no sucker and thus deter them from conning you in the first place.

MAKATI -

In other words "P.Burgos St" (in suburb of Makati). Open to 3/4am.

This area had the reputation of the best looking girls , but with increased popularity , management increased the prices continually until it has become a shadow of its former self. The best looking girls tag is possibly stretching things nowadays. Certainly not what it used to be (popularity). Extremely pushy girls and mama-sans , and excessively high prices have killed this P. Burgos St , Makati area.

UPDATE : Confirmation , this area is in a lull right now , ie , not many punters = management and girls become more 'commercial' ("buy me drink , buy me drink" etc etc : ) I would never visit P.Burgos nowadays , not my scene.

Further on down the track , and with the passage of more time , since that 'update' : Yes , this area seems to be dying. Not so popular nowadays due mainly to overpricing. With a drop in customer numbers the SE Asian mentality kicks in , wherein they increase prices to try and get the same cash flow they had with previous higher number of customers. Consequently customer numbers dip even further. This vicious circle continues , until some one wakes up. But who and when ? I dunno : ) Whilst this area has been dipping in popularity , EDSA (see below) has been rising slightly in popularity. And La Cafe Ermita Manila (see below) and Angeles City bar scenes have been growing in popularity. Price is king. At La Cafe girls are attractive/pretty upstairs (not downstairs) and also Angeles. So why put up with the crap at places like P. Burgos ?

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Average Prices : It's hard to come up with average prices, especially with a place like P. Burgos St Makati , where they are trying to edge up the prices all the time. Use the following as a guide only.

Your Beer - Anything from P150 and up (exceptions during happy hour/s) ! ; Ladies Drink - Anything from P300/350 or more ! ; Bar Fine : P2000 and up to P3000/3500 at some places ; Tip (for the girl) Short Time : P2000/3000. Long Time (all night) : P4/5000. By comparison Angeles on average : P1750 all up , incl. non obligatory tip of P500 the next morning ! See seperate Angeles Nightlife notes. Update : Rumour has it some bars have increased their bar fines to P3900 and girl expects similar (P3900) as her tip. Check Angeles GoGo , just as good looking girls there for P1750 (all up , incl's P500 tip next morning).

At Burgos , clarify when you are talking about prices whether it is ST (Short Time) or LT (Long Time) she has in mind. And don't forget, try and avoid a beauty with an 'attitude'. The kind of attitude that will add up to bad value as the night progresses. If it progresses at all , some are capable of doing a runner after only one shot , yet you paid for all night. May the luck of the Irish be with you !

Here are the most talked about places. Use as rough guide only.

Prices and names of bars mentioned below can change (upwards : ) :

Not so expensive (?) places first ....

1. Flamingo : This one is popular as they are relatively honest and less pushy here. Attractive girls. Bar Fine around the P2000 mark , Ladies Drinks possibly P300. Overall : Seems best to visit this one and the other four below first.

2. Bandidos : This one is across the street from 'Bottoms' and down stairs. Possibility of better value and atmosphere than some others , but maybe lacking in cuties. It's a lucky dip , best to poke your head inside the door and see anyway. Bar fine around P2000 , but ask beforehand.

3. Wild West : is also similarly valued and more relaxed atmosphere , but its never really relaxed in this part of the woods (P.Burgos St). It's located in Makati Avenue, opposite Shakeys Pizza. Wild West : on Makati Blvd (short walk from Flamingo) Small bar and small selection. New girls seem to start here. Update : New Management and bar fines heavy (?)

4. Rogues : This one has become popular lately cause of its more reasonable prices. Barfines in the vicinity of P1200. "Mogambo" also reportedly reasonably priced , compared to the other expensive ones. Good attitude , but older BF (Barfine) P1600 (?)

Expensive ones ....

5. Jools : There is possibly a cover charge of P150 for well regarded Cabaret Shows , scheduled to start at 10.30pm. Ask at door when shows held and if there is a charge for same. Normally no strip in this joint. Your Drink and Ladies Drink very expensive , and they push you to buy more and more. Ask "how much" before you order anything. Expensive place , BF and tip later. Not all of the girls are of the 'take out' variety , so don't spend heaps on Ladies Drinks without asking re her availability first. See Average Prices above for a guide.

6. Bottoms : Usually lots of girls. See Average Prices above for a guide. Possibility of a BJ in the booth (nice looking girls , but a rip-off/too commercial/pushy for some punters)

7. Montana : Pushy Mama-san and girls (for drinks). BJ's on the spot possible , if you have bought some LD's beforehand. Tip around P500 is expected for bj. Bar Fine P3000 to take out , plus P2/3000 in Tip. See Average Prices above for a guide. Not possible to relax in this joint , but reportedly beautiful girls at beautiful prices. Beautiful girls with bad attitude (when you get back in your room) ? You be the judge : )

8. Foxy's off Burgos St , in Kalayaan St has re-opened. Big GoGo Bar and good selection. Bar Fines and expected girls 'tip' is heavy.

9. There are a lot more Bars in this area. Whilst walking around , beware of the the ladyboys/bayuts (transvestites) , who have a penchant for stealing from pockets/rooms , wherever.

This area no longer recommended for a relaxed happy night. Unless of course you have just won the lottery : ) If it's gogo and Manila , EDSA. If its freelancers and Manila , La Cafe (see below for info on these places).

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Additional info : Not sure if the following info is relevant any more. Do not hear of anyone talking about the following places :

"Filling Station" , across the road from Bandidos and above 'Bottoms' Go-Go is not a bad place to be after the Go-Go's shut down. Some of the dancers call in here for a bite to eat and the possibility of finding a lonely customer , at a discounted price (P2000). Note - beware of Billy Boys (Gays/Transvestites) hanging around this same place.

It is possible to make arrangments with the GoGo girl of your choice the next day , minus the Bar Fine and possibly at a discount rate. Don't let the Management catch you at this though. The girl might suffer , if management finds out. Ask girl if its ok to swap phone numbers in the open/public view beforehand.

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Accommodation P. Burgos St area :

See "Manila Basics" section for info on Oxford Suites , Century Citadel Hotel and other monger friendly places to stay and screw hookers.

EDSA - GO GO Bars

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Location of EDSA : Corner of Epifanio De Los Santos Avenue, otherwise referred to (thankfully) as EDSA , and F.B Harrison Streets. Around P90 taxi ride from La Cafe area. Say to taxi driver : "Firehouse at Edsa Extension opposite Heritage Hotel". If driver does not seem to know , just say "Heritage Hotel" and walk across to EDSA. Approx eight bars. Open 7pm - 3/4am. A two story barn type building. You will find the EDSA Go-Go action near the corner of Edsa and Roxas Boulevard, opposite the Heritage Hotel. You will see the GoGo signs outside. Every taxi driver knows it , of course. One thing taxi drivers are good for, location of the red light districts. Generally, Edsa is a less expensive and a more relaxed environment than P. Burgos St in Makati (Angeles City even more so). For sure , you should not visit Manila without at least having a look at EDSA.

UPDATE : EDSA seems to be gaining slightly in popularity as P. Burgos/Makati (see above notes) slips in popularity. Punters seem to get better value at EDSA. Open to 3am.

Average Prices: Use the following as a guide - Your Beer P100/110 ; Ladies Drink P200 or more ; Bar Fine P1400 ; Tip expected next morning by the girl varies. Clarify before paying the bar fine. Tip ST will vary from P1500 to P2000. Long Time : P2500/3000 or more (tip expected). This place is slightly better value than P.Burgos St (Makati) , mentioned above. But there is much better GoGo value in Angeles City , much better. See Angeles notes in seperate link/page , this website.

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Some of the names you can look for , although they can change with the weather :

1. First , in a left to right rotation , you will come across Casino , then further down , Samba , Boadroom , Cotton Club , then Bullets and Arrows (formerly My Fair Lady).

Exiting B&A on the far side , you can go upstairs to :

2. Club VIP , then Firehouse (one of the big names) , Space Club and lastly , Pitstop. So about nine in all , worth a visit.

Advice for Budget Bangers : The best , moderately priced (Pesos1250 all up , Bar Fine included , add P300/500 tip next morning if happy with service) Go-Go action in the Philippines is to be had at Angeles City. A dump of a town , but chock full of cheap , sexy and young , Go-Go girls , much more than EDSA or P. Burgos St (Makati) , for that matter. See Angeles notes in seperate link/page , this website.

MISS UNIVERSAL

Beautiful girls yes , but read on.

Taxi drivers know it , about P90 ex Ermita area. Last time I was there they asked P400 entrance and told me Beer was P79. Wouldnt be surprised if beer is now P100 or more. Watch these people , they are out to treat you like a sucker. They asked me to sign chit but I insisted on paying as I go. My chit should have been P479 but was closer to P600 (plus the P400 entrance fee). One beer and entrance = 479 , not P600. Just imagine if you sit there all night , and paid at the very end , you'd get a shock with your chit. On exiting Universal , taxi driver told me they don't expect to see customer again , so they hit him for all he is worth : )

Since visiting have heard there is an additional P100 per hour table charge too. I tell ya , these people invent charges as they go along. Will milk you for all your worth , and of course you 'pay' or the heavies appear : ) Hence , if ever there was a second time for me (very doubtful) I would get in , order one beer , check whats on stage , check the Show Room (see below) , then outta there.

Lots of good looking girls , yes , but they have a controlled look about them. They conduct themselves according to managements wish. And management is watching their every move. Nothing like talking to Freelancers who have no restrictions and no 'boss' looking over them. Yes they dance in total nude and yes they show you their pussy , but only if you have a seat directly in front of the stage. I had the misfortune of a seat to side of stage and saw little. Was told to come 7pm for a good seat directly in front of stage.

There is a 'show room' full of pretty girls. Most 7's or 8's , with the occasional 9. You can ask for it , and go and inspect the fillies yet to hit the stage , wherever. It costs you plenty to have them sit at your table like 'robots' with controlled conversations etc. I saw one guy putting his arm around one of these girls at the table. Her response was 'non co-operative'. Yet her ladies drinks are costing around P390/490 each. Time limited how long she sits with ya too , maybe only 30 mins. Management dictates to them how they behave. Add to that , they have boyfriends or husbands waiting for them after (hence 2am/4am 'runners' from your hotel room).

It you paid to take one back to your room its going to cost you a minimum of P5000/6000 and for sure early hours , say 3am she will do a runner , go home , regardless of your protests.

For me , its a perv only place. Very difficult if not impossible to get any action in the expensive VIP Rooms. Even more difficult and a hell of a lot more money to bar fine them. They will not stay overnight , even if they promise to do so.

The problem is ... hundreds of guys go there to ogle over their bodies. Universal has a good reputation for bodies , so the girls think of themselves as 'gods gift to man' = unsatisfactory companionship. You can bet , most if not all of these girls have boyfriends/husbands , cause they are good looking. Their heart is not in the job , they are just doin' it for the money.

If your particularly young and handsome , no doubt you could get em to loosen up and 'perform'. Otherwise its a perv spot , thats all. I can not see any reason to return there. Paying P600 for one beer and perv on chicks who are not interested in 'performing' (not interested in you) , is not my idea of value. All the aforementioned is my personal opinion only. Its worth at least one visit to perv on pretty girls and assess it for yourself. Just be alert to what is going on : )

Overall : The girls are better looking than what you would normally see , say upstairs LaCafe etc , but only marginally so. The problem is their attitude (gods gift to man) and management style (controlled girls and rip off techniques). You can shag four attractive 7's (possibly 8's) ex La Cafe upstairs , with a good or reasonable attitude , as against one 'star fish' (8/9) potential girl ex Universal.

Best ... go to Universal , see a 9/10 , get her body and face firmly fixed in your mind. Pay the P600 + bill , head off for La Cafe select a pretty '7' upstairs one there , take her back to your room , throw a towel over her face and imagine the 'Universal 9/10' : )

Your approx 4.5 to 5.5 thousand pesos better off , better companionship and shag , and possibility of repeat biz with same La '7' girl. The La girl will most probably rate an '8' companion, whereas the Universal 9/10 , might rate a 3/4 companion , but then again , you might be lucky and she rates a 6/7 companion. Always a lottery : )

EAST ASIAN ENTERTAINMENT (EAE)

Location ... Roxas Boulevard. All taxi drivers know it. When pronouncing Roxas you say "Raw-harse". High class pro's apparently. Never been there myself , will next trip. Expensive , lots of high roller koreans and japanese etc. This is the kind of place you have to say "how much" before you commit yourself to anything.

Myself on first visit. I will ask mama/papa-san , how much a beer , any table charge ? , how much ladies drink , any other charges ? Then sit at a table. Even then they will rip you off in some way , that's for sure. As I will not be fucking any of the girls there (over priced) I will get in , assess the joint , and get out , as quickly as possible. Longer I stay there , the longer they have got to think up "extra charges" : )

I will only be going there for the Pocket Guide Book info , not for any other reason. Beautiful girls at these kinds of places can be found elsewhere for one fifth the cost. Any venue with beautiful girls will cost an unbelievable amount , and all attendees (mongers) at them are presumed to be either big spenders , suckers , or both : )

I will report my EAE findings in Manila Pocket Guide one day.

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OTHER NIGHTLIFE Manila :

ERMITA

FREELANCE action :

WARNING : Dont forget , as advised elsewhere , take care of your valuables , some girls are not averse to stealing from your room (incl. drugging you before hand , exceptional , but can happen) , others are under 18yrs and can cost you as much as Pesos 100,000 if Police get involved. If you dont pay requested police bribe you might end up in prison for many years. Exceptions admittedly , but can happen. Just be aware of these possibilities.

Also take care with your health , ie wear condoms. These gals are not checked regularly (or ever) for STD's etc. Scams , rackets , theft is more likely in Manila , but can happen in other towns/cities too.

There are little pockets of FL's here there and everywhere , all over greater Manila (Ermita , Quezon City , Makati , etc etc , everywhere). Shopping Malls have potential for girls with wandering eyes.

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WARNING ... Currently there seems to be a spike in street crime , especially in the Ermita area. Do not carry valuables on your person , only enough cash for that night , no watches , bling etc. Hand over the cash , do not struggle if you come across crims. They only want cash , not you. No need for paranoia , but better to catch a taxi than walk around Ermita Streets.

1. "LA CAFE" , 1429 M.H. Del Pilar St , Ermita.

Read Freelance action : 'WARNING' above , and street crime warning above , too.

Here's d' current facts : Location of la Cafe - On the corner of MH Del Pilar and Romero Salas Streets. 1429 MH Del Pilar St to be specific. If coming by taxi , come down A Mabini St (one way) turn left into R. Salas St and alight at the corner of MH Del Pilar and bingo ! you have La Cafe. If coming from airport , different route. All taxi drivers know it , so no problem in finding it. Open 24/7 , never closes.

This seems to be the best value joint in Manila. Head straight for La Cafe in a taxi and get out at the front door , cause it's not safe to stroll around side streets of Ermita nowadays. Ignore any pimps close by. Pay-as-you-go Freelancers inside , some of whom are off duty Go-Go girls from nearby EDSA and other places (1/2am on for those girls).

Downstairs its 'Bottom Feeders' Bar , packed with average looking and below average gals and Western punters. Upstairs there is a band , dance floor and better looking girls. Pay as you go , padding of bills at La Cafe nowadays is a possibility. Not all the time , but enough to be careful.

LA is broadly divided into two :

Downstairs .... Westerners crowded around a circular bar. Lots of girls , most average or below average with the odd looker. Usually the looker is accompanied or is waiting for upstairs to open. Downstairs is open day and night.

Upstairs .... Evenings only. As you reach top of stairs to your left band and dance floor , to your right neutral territory , beyond that further right , floor drops down a level to decent tables , relatively nice long bar. This is the 'korean sector' especially on Friday and Saturday nights. Other nights its anyones territory as koreans are down in numbers. Mama-sans used to control the girls who favour the higher paying (and small dicked) koreans. Rumour has it mama-sans kicked out. If correct good news for punters. Although some girls will favour any Koreans in attendance cause they pay more , anything up to P1000 more. If there still is a Korean factor , it will come into play mainly on the weekends. Mondays to Thursdays , anything goes. But then , the high rollers (including lookers) front up on the weekends looking for the small dicked big money K's. Upstairs , remember , upstairs (k's).

Entrance Upstairs : Usually , P100 weekdays P150/200 weekends , but worth it (personal opinion) for the better environment and better chicks. Possibly , if they have a particularly popular band , it will cost P200 on that night , not sure. At ground level , in the 'snake pit' , its rough and ready with good quality girls hard to find (and no entrance fee : )

La Cafe Prices : Downstairs Girls : Any night of the week ..... All night : P500 for an unnatractive desperado (older) , downstairs. However , she will ask for P1000 , no doubt about that : ) P1000/1500 for a reasonable looking youngish girl. P1500 for an attractive girl who knows what she is worth. Even asking P2000/2500 , especially upstairs. You can get the bottom prices if your an experienced monger , but will most prob have to pay the higher prices if you do not have negotiating skills : ) Some upstairs attractive type girls hang around downstairs before upstairs opens (7pm ?). Same girls dont like paying the P200 either , and might be downstairs cause dont have the P150/200 to gamble with (get a customer)

Some girls will ask for more than the above rates , to see if your a sucker. All , repeat , all girls at LA are hookers. Do not believe otherwise. Short Time : P500 most average and below average girls (downstairs) , P1000 special girls (if any downstairs). Nearly all of them will ask for P1000 ST. Its up to you to decide if they are 'special' or not. You will not get any girl considering going with you , regardless time of day or how unnatractive she is , for less than P500. Under that is considered 'peanuts' and demeaning for the girl to accept : )

Upstairs Girls : Monday to Thursday ..... All night : P1500/2000 (depending on quality). Some will ask for more. Short Time : P1000. What price you pay depends on various factors ... demand and supply , whether or not you are an attractive customer (not nec. looks , eg , manner , cleanliness) etc. You can add P500/1000 or more , on top of those figs to understand what the big spenders are paying. Avoid talking to any freelance mama-sans operating at La Cafe , if any. Think they have been all kicked out now , anyway. Mama-san girls will cost extra again , cause she adds her 'introduction fee' on top. You step up and introduce yourself to the girl , no need for mama-san types.

SUMMARY - PRICES :

I know we are going around in circles re prices but generally , an older less attractive chick will not go with you ST (short time) for less than P500 , more likely P 1000. Same woman is expecting P1000 to P1500 long time. No way would I give this category of woman any more than P1000 LT : )

A reasonably young attractive girl will not go with you ST (Short time) for less than P1000 , and will most probably ask P1500. Same girl will not go with you LT (long time) for less than P1500 and most probably will ask P2000.

A 'looker' will not go with you ST for less than P1500 and maybe ask P2000. Same looker will not go with you LT for less than P2000 or P2500.

All of the above prices are subjective , cause what is a unnatractive/attractive/looker girl varies from monger to monger. For sure if the girl sees you are hungry for her she will hold out for a higher price. Play it 'cool' , show moderate interest only : )

On exiting La Cafe catch a taxi passing by that uses its meter. Avoid standby taxi's , especially those who refuse to use their meters. Standby taxi drivers are usually lazy buggers trying to rip folks off. UPDATE : There is currently a scam outside La Cafe wherein Policeman stops you and your gal , take you to local Police Station and extract a bribe to get you out of a sticky situation. To avoid this , experienced punters give their gal P100 inside La Cafe , make it clear where they are staying , exit La Cafe separately and catch separate taxis to the same hotel. Thus avoiding the scamming policemen.

Do not expect 'models' at LA , but do expect lots of hungry girls and the odd upstairs cutie worthy of taking back to your hotel room. Watch your valuables. Some of these girls are capable of stealing. See 'WARNING' above. Note : You might come across the odd bayut/lady boy at LA Cafe (posing as a woman). Email : lacafe@ermita.com ....But doubt if they will answer emails.

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Short Time :

Short time accommodation can be had at Amazonia , see further on below for details.

Alternatively you could go to Sogo designer ST Hotel , but especially on weekends there is a queue to get in. La Cafe girls know where the nearest one is located. Apparently first built one is in Mabini St somewhere , and latest new one , is in Adriatico St. If say to driver "Sogo Adriatico" you should be right. Once you have paid for room ask for their 22% discount card for future visit , if any.

Quite funny , whilst waiting to get into a room and sitting there with your lay , observing other Mongers with their lay. For me personally it would put me off. Nothing like shagging in your own hotel : )

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Opposite LA Cafe on the other corner is a GoGo of sorts. Very tame , not many punters two times I checked it. Now called 'Stringfellows'. With a name like that , success is assured. They might as well call it : "Stringfellows Along" : ) UPDATE : This place is owned by La Cafe . Reports coming in nowadays say its dead. From tame to dead. They really string us fellows along : )

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FREELANCE action cont'd

NOTE : I hope to personally check out the following again , on my next Fact/Fuck finding tour early 2009 :

G.Point : is another Freelance spot getting mentions. Not on the scale of La Cafe (nothing is) but worth a peek , 10pm on. A friend of mine has provided the following info :

Location ... From La Cafe , walk across to Mabini St. Note which way the traffic is going (its one way traffic) . Walk against the traffic flow (North Easterly direction) in Mabini St and you will be walking in the right direction , to Padre Faura St , turn left into Padre Faura, G.Spot is on the right hand side at 510 Padre Faura (just past Watsons Store).

Be wary of girls with boyfriends or husbands , can happen. Procurement here at a slower and more careful pace. La Cafe , procurement is fast : ) Website for more info : Gpointmanila.com

Amazonia :

About 100mtrs from LA Cafe , heading towards United Nations Ave (West ?) , in the same street (MH Del Pilar). This place is trying to rival LA as a Freelance joint , but only moderate success to date. Much smaller number of girls than La Cafe. They also offer regular accommodation (P1400 per night) , and short time accommodation , if you want it. For example , you might like to take an La Cafe girl there for short time (2-3hrs). Short time rooms are P400 fan , P600 air con. Opinions vary as to quality of rooms. Inspect before you pay anything. The place can double up as a Voyeurs haunt , watching the girls coming in and out , being fucked short time : )

Alternatively you could go to Sogo designer ST Hotel , but especially on weekends there is a queue to get in. La Cafe girls know where the nearest Sogo is located. This applies wherever you are , ask the girl of your choice.

All of this info belongs to www.whorist.com

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NOTE : In all these places make sure your not hitting on some girl waiting for her boyfriend (eg in toilet etc).

Glorietta Shopping Mall :

Hard Rock Cafe , Makati (suburb) : One of the lads I know , told me about Hard Rock Cafe. He reckons from 11pm on it rocks. P300 entrance ( ? seems a lot). Mixture of good girls and 'bad' (LON's/Hookers) girls. Most of the LON's hang around the bar. Good girls do not normally hang around the bar. Worth checking out. Careful , you do not make a mistake and proposition a 'good' girl , one with a boyfriend , or even worse still a bakla/ladyboy , both of whom are also in residence here : ) More friendly , relaxed , cheaper girls at La Cafe (see above). Second hand info : Opposite Hard Rock is TGIF in Glorietta , sit at bar. Some freelancers.

Greenbelt 3 :

Greenbelt is the name of a suburb/area , take taxi to it . Entrance No.3. .... I believe you can forget entrances 1 , 2 and 4 if your looking for Freelancers. Entrance 3 : Starbucks (near Glorietta's , and opposite Shangri-la) and the area near Starbucks is a freelance scene. P1500/2000 all night for these girls , is adequate. Lower-end hookers P1000.

Cafe Havana at Greenbelt has a mixture of p4p (hookers) FL's , and non hookers (regular girls). Some dancing there also. If there is a seat outside , take it. Same business in Malate does not have the same reputation , needn't try : ) Nearby Starbucks and Seattle Coffee House might be worth a try too. Anywhere in that area where there are tables , preferably outside too. 10pm on action starts (girls).

Robinsons Mall , Ermita (Suburb) :

Locate "Starbucks" , try and get a table outside , close to passing traffic (girls) sit , sip , perv and procure. 4/6pm on best.

Also , could try similar at Figaro's.

Another spot is at the base of the Escalator , near National Book Store , but regular girls meet folks there too , so be careful , daddy might come along and thump you : ) There's Coffee Shops and Pastry Shops there with tables , take a seat and observe (perv : )

McDonalds upstairs is a long shot.

Sundays lots of girls walking around (like everywhere else in Phil : ) A small number of non pro girls looking for some extra money at Robinsons. Make sure they are at least 18yrs of age , check their ID. Try any spot that has access to the passing girls , smile , indicate to girl to come and sit at your table , and see what happens. UPDATE : I personally checked this place out briefly on one of my trips , before I update above info collected via the grapevine.

No , repeat , no sign of freelance action there. Maybe I was too early (as usual). Rumour has it that management asked Security to move these girls on. For sure , if there is FL action its minimal and mostly on Fridays and Saturdays (just like anywhere else). Better prospects at LA Cafe , methinks.

Harrison Plaza (Mall) :

Overall ... folks think the Harrison Plaza girls are low grade.

FB Harrison St. Reports coming in are mixed. Some say Sunday afternoons best.

Ground Floor : Maybe some non pro girls looking for some extra money (ground floor). ST P1000 if attractive. Make sure they are at least 18yrs of age , check their ID. Tread warily with non pro girls. Parents , brother or father might be nearby : )

1st Floor (UK ... 2nd Flr USA) : Some say ... Low grade gals , most likely with STD's or even worse (1st floor) , ST (Short Time) P500 , plus lots of she-men (billy boys ; bayuts ; ladyboys). Think they mean , not really attractive and regular Mall Trawlers.

Overall : I'd say give this place a low priority , or better still a miss , nothing compares with LA Cafe , for quick action : )

Bottom Feeders :

Haven't checked personally , grapevine says : Freelancers cheap : near EDSA , Hotel Rotondondo type girls p300 and up , hotel (Rotondondo) P100 for 2hrs. (Sleaze Heaven : ) See GoGo Bar notes for info on EDSA. EDSA … nearby short time hotel Victoria Court (in Luneta , not Malate) P600 , other girls nearby p4/500. High incidence of STD's , possibility of street thieves. Take care in these 'dark' areas.

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Odd one , not Freelancers :

Air Force .1. (official name : Flight 168 Health Spa) :

Not a freelance joint , not a go-go , its a combination ktv/massage (sex) joint.

Near Terminal .1. Intl Aiport (Aquino). Apparently on Sucat Road , not far from Sucat Mall (?). Taxi drivers should know it. Not that many girls in total. Has been going for a while now , and doesn't seem to have really taken off yet , but it is heading that way (acceptance). Therefore not such a high priority. From Ermita area , an inconvenient location (too far away).

Info so far : There is ... 1. Karaoke wing and 2. a Massage wing to the building. There's economy , business and first class categories apparently. Economy (girls) is P800 for room , plus P1500 for girl 90 mins. Business Class (girls) prices are : P2000 for the room and P2000 for the girl , 2hrs. First Class (girls) P3000 plus P3000. First class rip off ? : ) Crazy prices fella's , much better value elsewhere.

Honestly , no one raves about this place , think you can conveniently forget it , unless of course it "takes off" : )

WHORE HOUSES (CASA's) :

Not many guys use Filipino style whore houses. Generally there is better fun to be had elsewhere.

Whore houses are referred to as Casa's in the Philippines (Lady Houses in Thailand). Pronounced : Car-saahs. Taxi drivers know them. Take a whore tour with a driver. A lot of lovelies locked up in those places. Give the driver a nice tip at the end , if he does a good job (P50/100). The drivers don't make as much when 'waiting' outside places. Waiting outside whilst your inside inspecting ladies , that is.

If it was me , I would hire a taxi and ask driver to take me to nearby Casa's. I would not waste my time or taxi drivers time , ask driver to wait , hop in to Casa , check talent , get prices and calling card , hop out and back in same taxi. A survey. In car I would scribble down my rating , eg '6' (out of ten), on back of calling card/scrap of paper whatever. On and on , until I got sick of it. Return to hotel , then when refreshed and in the mood , return to my first choice Casa , "no luck" ? , then to 2nd choice and so on.

This is the most effective way to find where the best chicks are. No good selecting at first or second Casa , visit more than one or two , and get an overview , returning to your favourite/s later on.

Quezon City has a heap of Casa's , geared for the Filipino Clientele, so too Cubao ( but not safe) . Generally speaking the atmosphere is not so good at Filipino style nightspots. You get the feeling your encroaching. No harm in having a look, if your the curious type. Otherwise ask for whore house (Casa) that are popular with foreigners.

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OTHER MANILA OUTLETS :

Filipino Go-Go/Strip :

Sta Cruz has strip shows for Filipino's but its not a safe area and so not recommended.

KTV -The following are expensive.

Not updated anymore , sucker places.

NOTE : Save you reading ... the Quezon Ave KTV's are a joke , very poor value. Dont waste your time with them. Personal opinion only of course. The following info will become dated , cause I have no intention of returning to any Quezon city KTV's.

Pegasus - This one is above Sylvanus Massage , Quezon Ave , Quezon City. Pegasus also doubles as a Massage Parlor. KTV Action : on the premises P1200 for room + P1200 tip before 5pm , thereafter much more , eg Presidential Room P2000 and tip accordingly. Show girls offer titillation/strip. GRO's offer 'company'. You can have either sitting at your table for a price. You wont get much change out of P1000 for 1 hr of 'table talk'.

UPDATE : I personally checked this place out briefly on one of my trips. First two show girls I saw were below upstairs LA Cafe standards. Too much make up , tired , around the block look : ) Didnt wait to see anymore. This place is a joke. Forget it. To take them out you will have to first pay the equivalent of one hours table talk (P1000 -).

Note - Some of these girls earn enough via their 'table talk' commissions that they do not need to go with customers. Some have boyfriends or husbands waiting for them , or are very particular with whom they go with. After a minimum of one hour 'table talk' costs , and her agreeing to go with you , there is a Bar Fine to pay , which includes the cost of : 1. the lady all night (check beforehand how long she is going to stay with you) ; 2. Fee to Pegasus ; 3. a Penalty fee charging x amount per hour for every hour before closing time (3am) they lose her 'services' ('table' income/cash flow).

Average outlays : GRO's P7/9000 ; Models/Showgirls P10/12,000. These averages are more likely to go up than down , in time. In addition the gal would expect a tip (on top of the P5000 or more she gets out of the Bar Fine fee) Worth it ? In my opinion , certainly not. Do a bit of spade work , be patient and you will find a good looker elsewhere for a fraction of the cost , possibly even free if your young and good looking. Do not be fooled by the 'gift wrapping' (clothes girls wear) and 'decor' / atmosphere of places they work in. Filipinos and experienced whoremongers like myself do not pay these crazy prices , so why should you ? : )

La Legende - Quezon Ave , Quezon City. Very popular with the 'big spenders'. Also doubles as a Massage Parlour. Similar 'offerings' and price structure as Pegasus. Possibly a little more popular than Pegasus. UPDATE : I personally checked this place out briefly on one of my trips. Girls I saw there were nothing special. This place is a joke. Forget it.

I suspect the following Quezon Ave KTV's are poor value too : Classmates - Taxi's know it. This KTV is popular with 'high rollers'. UPDATE : I could just imagine the jerks who get ripped off in these joints.

Stardust - Quezon Blvd , near Mystique KTV. Taxi drivers know it. On the premises in the VIP Room P1800 + tip (1000 ?) 1 hr . Mystique - in Quezon Avenue/Blvd. Taxi drivers know it. I am no Cheap Charlie and am willing to pay 3/4000 for a top babe , but I saw no top babes in either Pegaus or La Legende.

Man these places are for suckers who pay for pseudo sophistication , not bodies , smiles and girl friend experience. If the decor , clothes of girls , atmosphere is 'sophisticated' guys imagine the girls to be 'over the moon' in the beauty stakes and pay accordingly. Be objective lads , peel away all that bullshit and go for : "bodies , smiles and girl friend experience" : )

Sorry , I will not be updating any of above info again. Sucker territory , not my territory.

All of this info belongs to www.whorist.com

MASSAGE :

As you most probably know by now , I am not a fan of 'Massage'. For me , not enough fucks for the bucks. So , sometimes the massage info I offer here is a little 'sketchy'. NOTE : I did not check out any Massage Parlours. KTV's were over rated , so maybe MP's same ?

My suggestion is , do the same 'research' recommended in 'Whore Houses (Casa's) info above , then back track to the better ones. Sorry , wont have time (or motivation) to research them myself. Just not interested : )

Keep in mind the Massage scene in Philippines can not poke a stick at the same scene in Thailand , which reigns supreme in this regard (massage).

SEX with - HOOKERS - MANILA

FRESH INFO

Rather fresh info first :

Try these two first , forget the others (further down) for the time being .....

1. Phoenix Massage Parlour (Roman Suites) Makati :

Behind the Rennaisance Hotel , across from Greenbelt 3 (JVC building on Pasay Rd , and inside Roman Suites Hotel , 914 Pasay Road , San Lorenzo Village , Makati. Up stairs to 3rd Floor (USA). Room is P1400 (varies according to time of day or night) , girl is an additional P1500 normally. Phone : 02.7528207

2. Palacio Don Pedro , Massage Parlour , Makati.

5660 Don Pedro Building , Don Pedro Street , Poblacion , Makati. Near Kalayaan Ave and P. Burgos St intersection. Phone 896-7511/12.

See their website for details of location etc. http://donpedro.ktvphil.com/main.asp Room 1000p (varies according to hour of day/night) , Girl P1500 normally. Note : Not everyone likes this place. Try Roman Suites first.

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Most if not all of the following info is second hand and I have no intention of trying to keep it up to date. Use as a rough guide only. Better to do the 'research technique' as outlined above , rather than the notes that follow. Sex scene and massage parlours change names , addresses , repuation , prices , like the wind , hence need for you to do a little research before you spend your money in any one massage parlour.

Here's my outdated notes as curiosity value only :

Thailand is the place for sex massage , not Philippines. Maalikaya Health Club - Quezon City , c/r Quezon Ave & Timog Ave. Well known by taxi drivers. Four floors of good looking massage ladies (?). Get's less expensive as you go up the floors. The difference being mainly the quality of the rooms themselves , and not the girls , so they say. Ground Floor Room P1500 , Tip P1500 = P3000 all up ; 1st Floor (UK) Room P1000 + 1000 tip ; 2nd Flr (UK) Room P700 , tip 700/1000 ; 3rd Flr (UK) Room P400 , tip 500/1000. Use these figs as a guide only. Apparently there is no Fish Pond , you select a number , sight unseen. This I do not like , and I would never patronise such a place under those conditions , however heaps of mongers frequent this place on a regular basis and are happy with their 'lucky dip' girls. Popular place.

UPDATE (old) : Possibly either the quality of the girls is down and/or the place is closed , ie no more ! Plse report your findings : )

Sylvanus - Quezon Avenue , Quezon City. Taxi drivers know Sylvanus. They have a fishbowl for your selection purposes. P1200 + 1200 tip for 2 hrs (?) 12n - 6pm , possibly P1500 + P1500 thereafter. Good lookers (?). Popular with mongers. UPDATE : I am quite sure Sylvanus was one of number of KTV's I checked out. Poor value. So I'd expect their massage to be poor value too.

Wilderness - Prices sim. to first two.

Pegasus - Quezon Ave , Quezon City. See above , it's also a KTV. Girls in KTV better looking than those in their Massage Parlor , and that's not saying much : ) . Taxi drivers know it. UPDATE : If girls in KTV better looking than Massage , hate to see Massage girls (see Pegasus KTV above)

Budget Massage/Bangs : Second hand info ....

Happy Sauna - E. Rodgriguez Senior Avenue , Quezon City. There is a neon sign on the building. El Cheepo Massage. No choice in ladies, you are simply handed a number and sent to your room to await managements choice. The girls numbers rotate , are changed on an irregular basis. So , if you want the same one again on a future visit , you have to ask for her full 'trade' name. Tell her the reason why your asking her massage parlour name is cause it will be easier to identify her with management , next visit. Now the good part , price - P400 Massage plus P4/500 for sex (negotiable with the girl beforehand). Locals only pay P200 for the additional sex. Use that as a guide , and only pay P400.

Now the bad part : Naturally , the majority of girls employed in this El Cheepo Massage could not find employment at places elsewhere. Some are not so young and not so pretty. Also rumour has it , they do not have regular medical check ups either. BYO Condom. As usual .... a lucky dip (the lot of a whorist : ) .

P.Burgos St area : "Imperial Bath House" - close to P. Burgos Street , Makati. It will cost you about Pesos 3500 all up for Massage and sex. Also , "Topaz" in Yakal Street Makati , where the girls are not so pretty and cost more.

EDSA area :"Core Town" - not far from the Heritage Hotel on EDSA Street itself. Massage & room P1200 plus sex P1200

"New Magellan" - Libertad Street , Pasay City. Supposedly beautiful women. All up , might cost you in the vicinity of P3000 , or a little less.

Skyline Health Studio - On the 8th Floor of the Grand Boulevard Hotel , Roxas Blvd. 24hours service. P1500/2000 all up (supposedly , could not confirm).

Overall : If it was me , I would ignore the above info , which could be out of date by the time you read it , and take a 'taxi tour' , as explained in Whorehouse/Casa's notes above. Say 1/2hrs of research , back to hotel , shower , eat have a couple of beers , then back to the massage parlour of your choice.

I will not personally research massage parlours cause I am not remotely interested in them. Heaps of other ways of finding a fuck , cheaper , better , in my opinion. Sometimes I go to MP's in Thailand to update Facts section , cause Thais massage scene is really something and its a nice perv , calling on them : )

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MANILA OVERALL : For me .. Upstairs LA Cafe is your bread and butter spot. Other places are worth visiting at least once , just in case. Seek and ye shall find. And so, for the time being, I conclude my notes on Manila.

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Info re SEX with HOOKERS - SABANG (Puerto Galera) Philippines

SABANG (Puerto Galera) :

This is a trip out of Manila. Nothing to do with Manila City itself. Read on ...

UPDATES :

I have abandoned Sabang , no more updates. Very few Mongers , including myself , visit the place = lack of intelligence/info = abandoned. It's also a hassle getting there : )

Before abandonment , here is what I wrote :

Sabang is a nice enough side trip from Manila. Nothing on the scale of Mla or Angeles, but worth a mention just the same. Sabang has lovely surrounding scenery, cute little alleyways and a small compact western orientated chick scene that should satisfy you for two or three days or more. Negative : lot of girls seem to be on Shabu (drugs). The following Transport/Accom information is a bit dated now , use as a GUIDE only. Better than nothing : )

Transport - Catch a bus from Centrepoint Hotel , Mabini Street and pay P700 approx for a round trip which also includes the Catamaran (Si Kat is the most favoured Cat' , last one leaves at 6pm) at Batangas to Puerto Galera and back. UPDATE : Apparently Centrepoint Hotel is now closed. Enquire at Swagman Hotel (see Manila Basics link/page) and see if they offer a similar service. If you miss the last ferry/cat .... consider Days Inn accom. at Batangas = P1300.

Once at Puerto Galera, you'll need to ride a Banca (native boat) to Sabang for around P150/200. The other alternative is a crowded Jeepney for P10. They both take about the same time, 20-30 minutes. Avoid trikes, they are a pain/nuisance. Overall , it will take you about 8 hrs to get to Sabang from Manila.

Accommodation - During high season there are a lot of young European diving dongs (Scuba divers) at Sabang and so accommodation can be a little tight, but available, nevertheless. Sabang is famous for its 'brownouts' (blackouts in the west). So, before putting money down on the table ask whether or not your place has a generator and if they use it. Some smart arse places will say yes, they have a generator, which is true, but striving for more profits, they don't use it when the brownout arrives.

If you need somewhere to kickstart your stay, here is a rough guide to budget style accommodation :

1. Seashore Lodge, P5/800. 2. Terrace Garden Resort P5/600, good but hard to find. Can't give you reliable directions, unfortunately. 3. Tropicano, around P1000 and up from memory, and good Restaurant.

Restaurants - Tropicano Restaurant just might be the best in town. Hearty breakfasts too. "Relax Thai " Restaurant, genuinely spicey and good. "Sabang Fast Food" is ok.

NIGHTLIFE

This is divided into two.

Well, there is not a great deal of it , but what is there seems to keep the guys occupied. Remember, if dealing with Freelancers, watch your valuables, especially overnight.

Go-Go Bars:

Prices are approx : Ladies Drink P100; Bar Fine (aka Departure Tax : ) P4/500 ; ST 500 LT 800/1000 . A far cry from Makati prices but the girls are not so pretty and lavishly packaged as in P. Burgos St. "Sunset" is the most popular and has the friendliest and prettiest girls. 2. "Sabang" is not so friendly, more of an Asian clientele and can be pushy re LD's , but nice gals. 3." Umbrella" is another one with pushy management. Management changes, places change, let's know how it was when you visited Sabang.

Disco : "Philippine Village" is where Freelancers hangout , mixed with some good girls (not for hire). As usual the ladies of the night do not start fronting up until around midnight. P500/1000 for an all nighter.

Other Freelance: at Sabang Fast Food you will find some 'hangabouts' who will gladly let you pay their food chit and then supply 'Desserts' for a modest fee. Eddies Place & Big Apple are also Freelance possibilities.

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So, back to Manila and on to Angeles City, less than three hours drive north of Manila. Wall to wall go-go's here we come ....................... T