Sex Hookers Chiang Mai Thailand

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It will be helpful in getting you started. Initially I collected all the information personally , but not any more.

When I travel overseas nowadays , I only update towns and places that I am personally interested in.

"Reviewed" (below) means I have checked other sources and adjusted info accordingly.

Another way of updating info is via YOUR 'Field Reports" , sent in on return from trips overseas.

Overall , you should not rely on any one website for accurate/up to date info. Scour the Internet and draw your own conclusions : )

NOTE : The original 1am curfew for nightspots , varies a bit from town to town , nowadays. In Chiangmai some places have a 12 m/n curfew. Freelancers on the street and Disco's seem to be able to circumvent the curfew. There are also other establishments that 'bend the rules' , sometimes only temporarily , until they are caught up with. Thailands sex scene is very fluid/spermatic : )

PICS : In the NEW page/link (on Main Index page) you will find "Fishin for Fun" and "Escape" series of Diaries. On those particular pages you will find hundreds of pics of Thailand/Philippines , and usually a minimum of ten pics of girls I have met , on each of those pages. No pics on these Facts pages. Facts man , facts , no pics here. "Without the facts where are the fucks" ? : )

Check "Field Reports - Thailand" for the possibility of fresher info/updates (doubtful .... so far , very few people are contributing to Thailand Field Reports).

Chiang Mai's nightlife is nothing like Bangkok or Pattaya, or the compact sex scene at a place like Angeles City, in the Philippines. But it still has enough on offer to amuse/entertain you for two or three nights at least (no days for the true blue practitioner , only nights : ). Worth a peek. Personal opinion only of course.

I’d say, after three days and nights you will have ‘been there, done that’. Unless of course you wanted to visit the Temples, Umbrella Factories etc.(which I have been guilty of doing , in days gone by : ).

If you want charm and ambience with some sex on the side , its Chiang Mai. If you want wholesale sex with multiple choices , it’s either Bangkok or Pattaya.

For sure , try Mandalay Disco , Spicy pick up joint , Sayuri Massage and Foxy Lady GoGo. Details on this same page.

MAPS : We suggest you buy the The "B&B Thailand North" Map and mark on that map , the spots outlined on our Map No.2 below. That same B&B map supplies an adequate map of Chiang Rai too. You can buy maps (and Thai Dictionaries) at DK Bookshop which is located in Kotchasan Road Chiangmai , about 100 metres up from the corner of Kotchasan and Loi Kroh Roads , near No.22 on our Map No.2 below. Kotchasan Rd is on the opposite side of the Moat to True Blue Restaurant/Johns Bar. DK Bookstore is a large white building set about 50 metres back from the road. Ask anyone you come across , everyone knows the DK Book Store.

We have produced two simple maps below , to give you some idea of where everything is. Use them in conjunction with the B&B Map.

Kotchasan Road is where the top Go-Go Bar - "Spotlight" is located and is the beginning of the top Beer Bar strip (see Beer Bars below) . Note - a top Go-Go in Chiang Mai could not compare with top Go-Go's in Bangkok , Pattaya , Patong etc.

"Vegas" is off the Tourist strip, but worth a peek. Sayuri/Pandora further away are two well known Massage places.

Moon Muang Road - This is the Tourist/Whorist Strip, small as it is. I’ll take you on a walk through this strip.

Starting at the end of the Moat, ie, c/r Bamrung Buri Road and Moon Muang Road (see your Map) and walking past all the night spots:

For identification, one hundred metres down from that corner is a Wat, 150mtrs further down is the Blue Moon Nightclub, Twilight Cabaret and Thai Trad. Massage. Never heard a word about the place, therefore not popular. Did not enter.Then a Karaoke Club (of unknown potential), followed by Mad Dog Bar & Pizza.

Cross over Ratchamanka Rd and further along Moon Muang is Beat Club with its neighbour "Johns Place", a popular watering hole, and potential pick up place, with tables out on the footpath/road. On the opposite corner to Johns Place is Cozy Corner Go-Go (see under Go-Go info ) then Bier Stube Restaurant (see Restaurants info ) . Thirty metres on is Sax Music Pub (watering hole) , then private road/entrance to Caesars Cabaret . Right next to Caesers entrance is an alleyway to "Beer Bar Central" (see Beer Bars info). If you look to your right , on the other side of the road, you will see the start of the reconstructed ‘City Wall’ 'n Tapae Gate.

On the corner of BB Central alleyway is the beginning of True Blue Restaurant in Moon Muang Road (see Restaurants info ). Fifty metres down on your left is Ratchadaminden Road, forming a T with Moon Muang. Post Office is just around the corner in Ratchadaminden. Further down in Ratcha’ ,same side, is Net Square Internet facility.

Back on Moon Muang Rd and at the corner of Ratcha’ is JJ Bakery (see Restaurants) and Montri Hotel (see Accom.) Opposite this T is the Thapae Gate entrance (City Wall).

Pass through Thapae Gate entrance , swerve to your right and cross over Kotchasan Road (see Map). Walk along there in a Southerly direction for about 100mtrs and you'll come across Spotlight GoGo Bar (see GoGo info below). A few metres further up is the beginning of a Beer Bar scene, consisting of approx eighteen beer bars. First ones start in Kotchasan and work their way around the corner into Loi Kroh Road (see Beer Bars).

Once you have done this Moon Muang/Kotchasan walk you have seen most of Chiang Mai's Falang style nightlife. Nightlife that is contained/compressed that is. There is just as much night life yet again and possibly more in Chiangmai , but it is scattered all over the place and a significant percentage is Thai orientated. Further on , I give you specific addresses of some of these ‘scattered’ places.

Not a lot to be had in Chiang Mai, much less in fact than even Patong/Phuket. It's certainly not a Go-Go town, yet cheaper than Patong in all respects. From time to time you might come across a Go-Go Bar isolated, all on its own. Thats Chiang Mai - scattered/isolated as compared to the big sex scenes further South (Bangkok/Pattaya).

The currency quoted on this website is the Thai Baht. For conversion to your local currency refer to : www.xe.net/ucc

I do not visit GoGo's much at all these days , so take the following as a rough guide only :

Average Prices : Your drink will cost 80Baht . Ladies Drink Baht 80 . ST is in the vicinity of 1000 and LT 1500 (depends on your bargaining skills). Some haughty whores ask for Baht2000. Forget them , don't inflate prices for those that follow after you (otherwise no Whorist Heaven : ).

No.12 on Map No.2 below : Cozy Corner. This place is no longer a GoGo. Worth a stop and Baht35 Beer. Girls dance the hula , sort of , fully dressed. Open to the elements. No barfines , no take out , but you miight be able to sweet talk the 'hula' girls over 2/3 nights and meet them during the day ?

No.23 on Map No.2 below : Spotlight Go-Go Bar , 47 Kotchasan Road. If you are sitting at Johns Bar (Moon Muang Road) and look across the moat to the road opposite, you should spot it. (spot, Spotlight - get it, got it, good). Longest established Go-Go in town. About twenty/thirty lively ladies on the premises. One of Chiangmais top Go-Go Bars , but that isn't saying a lot , cause this is not a go-go town. Prices : YD 80 ; LD 80 ; BF 500 (after 12 midnight : Bt150 ; LT 1500. I'd say , at a guess , Foxy Lady (see below) is the leading GoGo in Chiangmai nowadays (not saying a lot : ) , but these places change like the wind.

Foxy Lady GoGo : Thapae Road , Soi.1. and therefore approx 10 min walk from Spotlight. Coming from Tapae Gate end and walking down Tapae Road on the right hand side against the flow of traffic you walk past Soi.6 etc , then Kam Phaeng Din Road and then you come to Soi.1. Turn right into Soi.1 and Foxy Lady is some distance down on your right hand side. Attractive girls , Bt60 for a Sprite (wasnt drinking at time) , Bt80 for Ladies Drink etc. Bar Fine Bt500. ST and LT prices not confirmed but believed to be crazy price. Do not pay anymore than Bt1500 is my advice. Atmosphere etc is ok , enough attractive girls to keep you occupied for an hour or so. Worth a peek. Note : The quality of girls etc can change over time. More info : www.foxylady-chiangmai.com

Star Six : Tuk Tuks call it "S'dar Sik". I like saying "Star Sick" , still gets me there : )Walking down Loi Kroh Road on the right hand side , turn into the soi on your right before Kam Phaeng Din Road and the Imperial Mae Ping Hotel. Its the same soi that houses CEC (Chiangmai Entertainment Centre .. see below notes) Once in that soi its only a few short metres down on the right hand side , set back from the road. Starts 8pm , go 9pm to be sure. UPDATE: Info via the 'grapevine' : Baht 150 entrance (if minus taxi) = one drink. This one gets both good and bad reports. Some say its too dark , pushy katoey mama-san and girls average looking. Others say best go-go girls in town. Ladies drinks Bt80/90 , Bar Fine Bt500 , ST Bt1000 (will ask for Bt1500). Add : On one trip I was about to enter , but foreigner coming out of door said place is "bullshit". Heard enough negative stuff about it , so I did not enter. However , next time I intend to enter and find out for myself : ) It will only cost you Bt150 to find out if they are currently the best looking gogo girls in town. Do not forget , this is not Bangkok and best looking is 'relative' to what else is on offer in Chiangmai.

See Field Reports , Chiangmai October 2006 , for 'ABC' who reports on the place in detail.

Compared to a place like Pattaya , you could say the Beer Bar scene in Chiang Mai is almost non existent.

Average Prices : Your Drink Baht 60/70 ; Ladies Drink Baht 60/70. These drinks prices might have escalated recently. I have also been hearing lately : Bar Fine Bt300 , ST (Short Time) Bt1000. This is about double what I knew it to be. Personally , I would try for Bt1000 all up , Bar Fine and girl rolled into one , ST. These girls are nothing special , hence I personally would not got beyond Bt1000 all up , ST and Bt1500 all up LT.

No.10 on Map No.2 below : Beer Bar Centre , Moon Muang Road. Sign at entrance to alleyway. True Blue Restaurant on the corner of the same alleyway. About fifteen beer bars which never really came alive during my three or four visits. No comparison with the livelier Loi Kroh area (see below). Overall - nice layout, but it just doesnt ‘happen’. Katoey type Cabaret held in boxing ring. Tourist type Thai Boxing later in the night. I'd say this place has potential for bargain basement sex. Not an awful lot of customers, hence the ladies would have to be cheaper.

No.13 on Map No.2 below : Johns Bar , Moon Muang Road. See 'Overview' notes above for more info on location. It's Opposite Cozy Corner Go-Go and not far from Bier Stube Restaurant. Every time I went pass this place it was well populated including some Falang Backpacker women. Not sure if the Thai ladies here are of the 'take-away' variety or not. Most probably not. Not a bad observation post for passers by (ladies on the troll) anyway , although you would have plenty of falang tourist (not whorist) witnesses to your devious designs : )

No.25 on Map No.2 below : Kotschasan/Loi Kroh Roads. Walking along Kotschasan Road and away from Thapae Road , at approx 50mtr mark , you first pass the popular Spotlight Go-Go Bar. At a guess , another 75 metres further along on the same side , is the beginning of about eighteen beer bars , four located in Kotschasan Road itself , but most are around the corner in Loi Kroh Road.

The ones in In Kotschasan Road are not as lively as the ones in Loi Kroh Road itself.

On the left side as you proceed down Loi Khroh there are about nine Bars including the popular "Butterfly Bar". This area is where it is 'happening' (left side of Loi Kroh Rd) . Your Drink Bt80 LD Bt80 (approx).

On the opposite side of the road to these Bars are 3/4 more including Stairway to Heaven.

If your a Beer Bar fan and do not like this Loi Kroh area you will not be impressed with the other less active Beer Bars/areas in Chiang Mai. Although , your little cutie could be sitting at an out of the way ‘dormant’ beer bar, just waiting for you to discover her : ).

Chiangmai Entertainment Centre (CEC) : Known to tuk tuk drivers as 'S'dar Sik' (which is really a quite different place , see X1X above). Bar Fine Bt400 , LT B1/1500. Walk down Loi Kroh Road (from Loi Kroh Beer Bars) , and on the right hand side , walking distance away is the Chiang Mai Entertainment Centre (CEC). Arched sign over Loi Kroh Road entrance. Photo in "Fishin for Fun - 1" link 'NEW' page. Alternative entrance : turn off Loi Kroh Road into the Soi on the right before Kam Phaeng Din Road. Walk down this soi and you will see Beer Bars starting on your left , walk down to the end of the bars and enter at the bottom , near the Boxing Ring. Twenty two bars , nicely laid out , spacious etc but on numerous visits 'dormant' with only two girls at each bar , on average. Spotted only one 'looker'. Some of the girls might not be the take out variety (so waste of time buying em Ladies Drinks). For tuk tuk , say "S'dar Sik Loi Kroh Road". 30 Baht from Thapae Rd area. Loi Kroh Bars are more lively , and many more girls employed in each of their bars too.

Peak Beer and Food Center : Sent in by owner ... "If you go down Thapae Road from Thapae Gate past Soi.6. and keep going till you reach Soi.1. which is on the right hand side of the road. Head down Soi.1. for about 200 yards and on the left hand side of the road is the Peak Beer and Food Center with about 15 bars. My bar is Peak pool bar and restaurant. There is music and girls in the bar and a free pool table the restaurant sells mainly thai food at thai prices that is why the other bars and shops use us". Note : 1. Owner has never sent in an update. Not sure if he is still in business.

If you don't mind the fact that the beer bars are scattered all around the place, you have in total enough of them to keep you busy for a while , but nothing on the scale of Pattaya : ).

Using your local map (see Map Info in Chiangmai Basics) , proceed along Charoen Muang Road , and cross over the Mae Nam Ping River (Nawarat Bridge) where you will find traffic lights. Proceed straight ahead along Charoen Muang Road , to the next set of traffic lights (third street up) which is called Bumrung Rajd Road. Clearly indicated with sign post. Turning left into Bumrung Rajd Road , you will pass the first soi on your left rather quickly but the second soi is some distance further down.Turn left into this second Soi , sign post says : "Bumrung Rat Rd Soi.2". Red postal box just after it. You walk one hundred metres along this Soi 2 and you will see Sayuri on your left. All up , its a 5min walk from Charoen Muang Road. At night it seemed a relatively safe walk. Couple of pics and little story or two about Sayuri in 'NEW' page of this website : "Fishin for Fun - 1" (Item No.16).

Alternatively you could have a 'dry run' , go there by tuk tuk (Baht50 from Tapae Gate area/uptown) , look only , and return by yourself later , on your Honda Dream rented motorbike , thus avoiding the Bt500 taxi commission which will be added to the cost of the girl of your choice if you arrive by tuk tuk/samlor.

You might like to locate Pandora's (see below) with the same tuk tuk driver ? Its not far away (Bt20 tuk tuk from Bumrungrat Rd) . As you enter the main door of Sayuri , you will find 5/6 Karaoke girls and the odd 'stunner'. Presumably no English spoken by these girls , and little interest shown to falangs who enter the main door either. Turn to your right as you enter and at top of steps is the Karaoke to the far right. Think you can forget this 'Thai' venue , unless your conversant in the Thai language.

To the left of the Karaoke entrance is the entrance to the Massage Parlour , enter here and behold the best Massage babes in Chiang Mai (my personal opinion only , havent seen every single place). Hours 12noon to 12 midnight. Best to be there 7pm on when the 'stars' arrive. Min of twenty up to fourty girls available at any one time. Possibly 80 or more girls in their employ (see all the Honda Dream motorbikes parked outside : ) .

Take a beer , sit and perv , they come and go rather regularly (guys boinking em in the back rooms). Prices are nowadays Baht1000 regular girls and another Bt150 if you want a decent room. Baht 1150 for the girls with "B" badge. Bt1500 for the girls with a "M" badge. Bt2500 for the girls with a "S" badge. These are the correct prices experienced mongers pay , but you might be asked to pay more : ) . Can possibly be less , if your fluent in Thai language. 90/120 mins. Add Bt500 to quoted prices if you arrive in a TukTuk or Samlor taxi (taxi commision which goes to driver).

To avoid papa-san trying to put one over you re price : 1. Get correct money ready , call papa-san , quote number girl of your choice and hand him the money , or alternatively : 2. Step up to Cashier window quote number and hand over correct money or 3. tell papa-san "friend pay ................................. " . Only way you can trip up here is if , for example he says girl of your choice is a Supermodel. If so , have a 2nd look and if she looks Super you have to pay Bt2500. A little 'S' on her badge means she is considered a Supermodel (by the Thais , which does not necessarily mean she is a 'falang superstar' : ) UPDATE : Last time there were no badges with B , M or S. Hope they are wearing badges when you call , otherwise its an opportunity for Papa-san to confuse you : )

Tip Bt100 for regular service , Bt200 for good service. Thats what the locals do.

If your a Massage fan , suggest you get off to a good start in Chiang Mai and try Sayuri first.There is also a 'nightclub' to left of Massage as you enter building. I found it a waste of time and extremely dormant on some occasions , ok only on other occasions. There are better babes in the Massage Parlour. Couple of pics and little story or two about Sayuri in 'NEW' page , "Fishin for Fun - 1" (Item No.16).

2. Pandora’s -No.33 on the Map above.This once popular place is nowadays a distant second to Sayuri (above). Last two visits to Pandora were dismal. Usually not so many on offer as at Sayuri , but sometimes an opportunity for a young fresh one.

Getting There : Address: 459/62-64 Charoenmuang Rd, Muang (area/suburb) Chiangmai (city) . Phone 245740-1; 245747. If you said "Massage Pandora" the tuk tuk/samlor driver should know where to go. Baht 50 from Thapae Gate area. But if the Tuk Tuk takes you to the front door, Baht 500 will be added to the cost of the lady (taxi commission). I suggest you confirm the location of this one , same time as you check out Sayuri (mentioned above). They are not far apart. Then backtrack minus that tuk tuk driver.

Location : Follow same instructions as for Sayuri Massage above , except , do not turn left into Bumrung Rat Road , continue on down Charoenmuang Rd until you see a Shell Gasoline Station on right hand side. Further down on left side (Charoenmuang Rd) you will see a tower of a sign post at the beginning of a cement Soi/Street with the name 'Kalyokorn' at the top of the sign post. Go down this Soi to the very end , where you will see a big Pandora neon sign. See photo in Waffle No.2. Article. (Waffle link on Main Index Page).

Massage Fish Pond - To your right as you enter Pandora's there are about 30/50 girls behind a glass wall (Fish Pond). Depends how many are already in the rooms humpin and pumpin. Quite often there is only 6/10 in Pond itself. For numbers and good lookers Sayuri (above) beats Pandora. Cost Pandora - Baht 1400 for the regular girls , who wear numbers , 90mins. Bt2500 for the Superstars , who do not wear numbers and are generally younger (lower pussy mileage , but still not low : ) 90mins. Compare Baht1000 Sayuri above. First time I went to Pandora's with Samlor taxi , they quoted Baht 1700, second time when I arrived on my motorbike minus the taxi , they quoted Baht 1200. So, they give the taxi driver (Tuk Tuk/Samlor, whoever) Baht 500 commission for bringing the customer to their front door. This 500 is always added to your bill . Be forewarned : ) You could be quoted even higher prices , depends if Papa-san thinks your a sucker : ) Thais pay less than what we pay for the same girl. Note - the rooms themselves were starting to show some wear and tear.

Other Diversions - They also have a Go-Go which is located on the left side as you enter. Baht 150 entrance = lst drink. Pushy for LD’s. Chicks, mostly overweight, odd good one. Atmosphere non existent. Forget it. They also have a Karaoke which I was advised by the staff themselves as 'not worth it'. Going on the ladies sitting outside the Karaoke, I would agree with them. Massage (Fish Pond) or nothing, I would say , but dont waste your time , go to Sayuri : )

Chiangmai Hill - A mini massage , compared to Sayuri/Pandora’s : Chiangmai Hill 2000 Hotel. 18 Huay Kaew Road, set back from the main road. Phone: (053) 400601-5. Fax (053) 4400610. No Email/Website. Tuk tuk 40/50 Baht West from Thapae Gate area. Not illustrated on the Map above. Best instructions are Bens : "If you enter the main hotel reception area , the Soapy Massage Parlor entrance is around the corridor to the left. You can avoid the reception area by going in through the Ballroom Entrance (through car park). The thai traditional massage is on the left , soapy massage is at the right hand corner as you enter the Ballroom. At night there is an illuminated sign at the Ballroom Entrance".

And then Thommo experienced the following : " Small 'pond' , 10/12 girls (at time I was there) , some good lookers, friendly/relaxed Papa-san. Baht 1700 , the lot (bj etc) . I think , if I had not arrived with a tuk tuk (taxi) it would have been Baht 1200. Tuk Tuk driver made sure he followed me in and opened the Massage door for Manager to see him. It's another way of saying "add 500 Baht , I brought this guy to your Massage". : ) UPDATE : Now know , correct farang price is Bt1200 for some girls 1500 for others , full service. Do not pay additional tuktuk commission. Worth checking out.

On exiting this Massage , a Hotel Tout said "See Superstars, young girl". Up the stairs we go : x 5 girls he claims are 18/19 years old but looked more like 15/16. Ten sec’s and I’m out of there. Very dangerous , dont fool around with gals looking younger than 18yrs. With bad luck , you could be set up , could cost you a lengthy stay in a Thai prison (stink hole , with cockroach sandwiches as your menu) . Gals under 18yrs are children , and dont know nuttin about sex anyway. Exceptions alway exist , but worth the risk ? A big NO ! As I promptly exit that area of the hotel , the tout says - "You give me tip". "What for, says I". Of course I ignore him , no tip , exit the building , end of Chiangmai Hill , for the moment.

But don’t forget , the 1st Massage room at Chiangmai Hill @ ground level , is worth checking out , especially if you found no joy at Sayuri or Pandora's (mentioned above).

Phucome Hotel - On the corner of Bunruangrit Road (Canal Road) and Huay Kaew Roads intersection. West of Thapae Gate. Not illustrated on the Map above. Went out there, around 40/50 Baht (tuk-tuk) , further past Chiangmai Hill Hotel. What I saw I didn't like , and so I left disappointed , having gone so far (in the tuk tuk) to achieve so little. Since then been getting reports that their Massages are good , Baht 1000 ones behind glass (fish bowl). Bt1400 for younger ones , who are not behind the glass. Approx 20 girls . The usual 90 mins.

The latest instructions from Ben , seem to be the most accurate to date. Here is Bens : "Phucome Hotel has 2 wings; If facing the hotel, the correct wing (soapy) is to the left. The entrance to the Soapy Massage Parlor is either through the ground level car park or, from the lobby, turn left and walk the length of the corridor - veer left - and you will see the sign.NB: That is the ground level car park - NOT the basement car park... entrance is on the left just at the start of the ramp up to the covered reception entrance. Massage parlour entrance is at the back of the car park, with motorbike parking right outside the stairway"

My personal opinion : At the start , do not bust your guts getting to Phucome or any other Massage. Try Sayuri first. If not satisfied there , the hunt begins in earnest ... Tally Ho , Tally Ho ! Pandora , Chiang Mai Hills , Phucome and any other place the Tuk Tuk takes you to (for his Bt500 commission : )

1. Mandalay Disco : Baht300 entrance = one free drink , Baht150 beer thereafter. UPDATE : The assholes have started double pricing at Mandalay. Last trip they charged me Bt300 for a beer , same beer Thais next to me Bt150. Obviously they do not want falangs at their disco.

Location : Moon Muang Rd , walking southerly distance from Johns Bar. A relative newcomer , but very popular and so taxi/tuk tuk drivers know it. Busy during week too. Mostly regular girls , freelancers in the minority. Difficult to find a pick up. Popular with regular Thai girls. UPDATE : See Tims Field Report December 2005 and Thommo's FFF4 May/June 2006.

2. "Bubble". It's in the Porn Ping Tower Hotel , Charoen Prathet Rd , No.29 on the Map above. Entrance Bt100 = first drink. This was the Freelancer Disco of Chiang Mai , but seems to be lacking in FL numbers lately. Worth a check out just the same. Watch your change etc. On a Frid/Sat night arrive 10/10.30pm if you want choice in seats. 11pm on its starting to rock , although not as crowded as it used to be. For guaranteed freelancers Bubbles is still the one (except for Spicy , see below) Closes 2am. Weekdays reportedly quiet.

3. Other possibilities : The Wall (Chiang Inn Hotel) ; Stardust (Westin Chiangmai) ; Crystal Cave (Empress Hotel). Not sure if all of these are still 'functional'. Similar to Mandalay , ie , not really a place to find Freelancers.

4. "Spicy" in Chaiyaphum Road. When other 2am Disco's close down freelance and regular girls head here. Directions : Get tuk tuk to Sompet Market , get out there , walk across brown steel bridge (across moat) and slightly to your left you will see the Spicy building. No.19 on the Map above (approx). Arrive 1/1.30am for table whatever , action proper starts 2am proper , best to arrive 1.30am if you want a seat. Goes to 5am or possibly later. Very lively smokey place. Definitely 'Pick Up Central'. If you can't pick up here , you cant pick up anywhere. Watch your valuables and keep out of arguments : )

Remember , so far as pick up potential goes , there is nothing in Chiangmai to compare with the Bangkok and Pattaya disco's , nothing remotely like it.

This one is off the beaten tourist/whorist track. Some know about it , some don't. Don't expect a lot : )

It has been superseded by all the more modern attractions listed on this page. Consequently I am not updating it anymore.

No.17 on the Map above. I think if you said "Vegas Ladies", a tuk tuk driver would know where to go. If not, and more particularly, if you wanted to take a medium length walk (say 7/10 mins) to the area here are the instructions. I'd say before twelve midnight would be safe to walk in or out of this area (no responsibility if it turns out otherwise : ).

I went in and out of the area on a hired Honda Dream Motorbike. Have a look at your Map , eg "B&B Thailand North Road Map". Using B& B Map - Coming from the corner of Thae Pae and Chaiyaphum Roads you walk along Chaiyaphun , cross over Chang Moi Road . Further on you will find Lane.1/Chai Ya Phum Road. There is a blue Northern Bearings building on this corner. Walk down this lane past an ancient and crumbling Buddhist Shrine on your right. You will come to a T intersection.

The top of the T is Sithi Wong Road. If you were to turn left into that road you will find 50 metres down a rundown small Thai Trad Massage on your left and a dormant Karaoke on your right , just past the giant rain tree. It is better to turn right at the T , cause forty metres up on the right is "Pub Karaoke" No.17 on the Map above : "Pub Karaoke ". Normally this place has Thai clientele. I was the only falang there on my two visits. Usually they have a couple of cuties standing outside to give you the come on.

On entering the front door you should go to your left where there is a bar and ladies are lounging about. Possibly 20 in all. Prop at the bar, order a beer YD Baht 150 (large bottle beer) swing around and perv on the ladies. My memory fails me as to the cost of a Ladies Drink but most probably in the vicinity of Baht 150. Not cheap for Chiang Mai , but the ladies are good. Then for groping but not poking, take the Lady of your choice to the other side (right hand side when entering the building) and sit at the back in the dimly lit lounges and go for it (fondling/groping). If you sit at the very back lounge others cannot observe what you get up to.

Take out ? Not possible with the honey I had , but reckon it would be with others. Just ask "all night" do not ask about BF, might not charge BF. A quality spot with nice girls. Only problem for me , the girl I selected was only a 'grope' girl . She fondled you, and vice versa. Tried to get her to my place of accommodation during the day, but did not succeed. She rang , her English wasn't good and my Thai not good enough to persuade her over the phone to 'cross the line' and visit me.

For something different , Pub Karaoke is worth a beer and a peek. Quality ladies , in evening gowns. That's when I was there , hope it's the same when you get there : )

No.18 on the Map above : "Las Vegas Cafe". Heading in a Southerly direction it is located about 40 metres further up on left side. It’s a Go-Go with limited number of dancers , 15 or so, and the place is in need of some fresh paint. Not sure what a drink was, would have to be similar to Cozy Corner Go-Go. I was told by a fellow practitioner , who was there at the same time as me , that the BF was 3/400 and All Night 1000. This place was impressive in times of yore , but not impressive at the time of my visit. Too dark and in need of some fresh paint.

Location (Action) - In Kam Phaeng Din Road just past and opposite Mae Ping Hotel. Not far from the corner of Loi Kroh Rd and Kam Phaeng Din Road.No.27 on the Map above.

This Road was in days of yore, the home of the ‘Bamboo Brothels’ , housing many hundreds of young non English speaking ladies. 50/100 baht short time for locals, 1/200 Baht foreigners. Since the mid eighties, intermittent government ‘clean ups’ have seen the demise of these places. Mid 1980's .... that far back ! yeh : )

Don’t know what the Thai population do for budget sex nowadays. Drink more Mekong Whisky I suppose : )

Today , there are only about two or three little native ‘Lounges’. with a very small number of girls in each. Some are takeaway, some are not. In some , possibility of ST on premises . Large bottle of beer Bt120 . Ladies Drink : from memory, think it was Baht 80. I had a nice time at one of these places. Sweet young lady, fondling my willy in the dark. Could have taken her third time round , but I was impatient , had to move on : )

Note : On my last trip to Chiang Mai I came across a large 'lounge' with expensive girls , where falang was not particularly welcomed. See 1st Feb link/page in the 'NEW' page/link for details on the stuff up at that place (forget , not typically friendly Chiang Mai).

UPDATE : I think forget 'Lady Houses' these days. A limited number are there , but hard to find and seedy in general.

Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai ( further North) have suffered the same fate. The former abundant supply of whore houses has been much depleted by 'government clean-up drives'.

Why was the north (incl. Chiang Mai) virtually destroyed in respect of Whore Houses ? Well statistics say most of the HIV comes from the Chiang Mai/Rai area , so Thai authorities thought they'd save their Thai citizens by eliminating el cheepo whore houses which catered for the masses (working class Thais) , including el cheepo bangers like me.

Ask a samlor driver to take you to : 'barn poo ying sow', and see what you get . Sow pronounced as in 'cow'. I did just that , on my last trip . Result - Frustrating time with modern 'shop like' whore houses , very small number of girls and expensive prices. Basically foreigners not welcomed in such place.

This is for Budget Bangers who want to get down and dirty ......

Location : NimmanheminRd , find Soi13 (opp 7/11 Store) , go down this Soi13 turn into first street on your right. Two lady houses are on your left near the corner. First one on left near corner is Bt500 for 30 mins , and some say the best place with young merchandise. The second one is called a Karaoke and the girls are Bt800. Maybe check this one out last.

The third lady house is actually in Soi.13 , just past first street on your right , and rubbing shoulders with the other two lady houses. You will see a blue metal door , maybe removed and leaning against fence nowadays. There are usually a few parked motorcycles inside the place (hookers). Enter main door then enter glass door on your left , where you can buy beer and select girls. Note : They have had some renovations , so maybe changes to building. Prices Bt300/400.

In times of yore , a Samlor rider would peddle for hours, from one whore house to another, but alas not today. It looks like barn poo ying sow (house with young ladies .... satisfactory ones) is part of the Chiang Mai history books , I'm afraid. Let me know if I am wrong. However , you still use this expression ("barn pooying sow") to get the message across your looking for sex : )

As I intimated before , the gov't considers these 'barns' (el cheepo whore houses) as an Aids threat for their less educated and less informed populace , who do not use condoms or care about Aids. Hence they are few and far between nowadays. I predict they will come back in vogue when folk (especially the Govt) have cooled down re Aids. They can't keep the lid on their native population forever : )

UPDATE : December 2004. The old style lady house has largely been replaced by modern 'shop' type houses , and not many at that , prices through the roof too. The El Cheepo places with pretty girls seems to have gone forever. There is the odd 'native' lady house , hard to find , but no longer cheap prices. In Chiangmai , finding gals through Lady Houses , is hard work (needle in haystack). Who wants to work hard on their vacation ? not me : )

Caution : When you enter Thai venues , you have to be on your best behaviour , otherwise you might find yourself being screamed at by a very drunk and bellligerent Thai guy , and maybe even worse , his pals too : ) Especially if you have just mistakenly talked to his girl friend. Smile a lot , sus out the place , don't 'rambo' into action immediately on arrival. It's not Bangkok : ) "Chiangmai Land".

Not on map above. Location - All tuk tuks should know it. See B&B "Map 8 .... bH" , alternatively , "go down Loi Kroh Road , turn right into Chang Klan Rd ( 9 ... bE ) and then after Central Chiang Mai Memorial Hospital , turn into Chiangmai Land Road (street sign). As you enter , KTV's and Restaurants on left , Bossy Disco on right. This is where the Thais chat up KTV gals and dance at Disco's.

DISCO : As mentioned before , be careful of your behaviour at 'Chiangmai Land' as some of the (drunk) Thai boys might resent your presence (and potential to pull the girls : ) , especially at a disco , like "Bossy" , where its wise to tread warily. Take your time and sus out those girls NOT with guy/s and are making eye contact with you first. Most , if not all , of the girls are not for hire/rent. But if you did take them home and bang them , they'd expect falang to hand them a Bt1/2000 'gift' the next morning. Thai culture : )

On the night I called , there was no entrance fee to Bossy. Only stayed there 5/10mins , place packed to the ceiling. I was the only falang/foreigner there. At my age didnt like my chances at such a place. It did not look "pick up".

KARAOKES : Also there is a small number of not so cheap Karaokes where you can buy the very pretty LON’s LD’s at Baht 100 plus a pop , 30 mins of her time only (not cheap for Chiang Mai) , but they are Chiang Mai pretty. Your beer similar price. Thai language skills almost mandatory. "Comodo" KTV one of the first on left when motoring down Chiangmai Land Road. This is where I spent some time. Impressed with honeys there (can change over time).

Ten Karaoke : 239/9 Wangsingkom Rd. Just up from Huan Sunaree Restaurant. Get a Thai to write restaurant name down on a piece of paper in thai language. Show tuk tuk and he will take you to Restaurant. Get out , walk 30/40mtrs to Karaoke. About sixty pretty girls when I was there. Your beer Bt80 , Lady Bt200 one hour (and presumably one lady drink). I presume she pushes for more ladies drinks during the hour. Dont know what they cost. One hour could end up costing you Bt1000 or more. Apparently very few of these girls will go with customers , ladies drinks girls only. Doubt if you would have much success leaving your cellphone number as few if any would speak/write english. Saw 10/15 very pretty ones when I was there , but you'd have a pretty 'dummy' sitting next to you , if you can not speak Thai yourself.

2. Take a seat and buy the selected gal a Ladies Drink. On a previous trip my babe gave me her cellphone number within 2/3mins of sitting down with her. This was a hint for me to call her next day and bang her , away from the expensive Karaoke , methinks. See story about "Miss Karaoke" , in the 'NEW' page , "Fishin for Fun - 1" link (No.16).

3. Grope-illation : Hire a VIP room on an hourly basis , its not cheap (no figs). Grope and fondle her , she likewise you : ). Personally , I recommend getting her cell phone number and fondling/banging her away from the Karaoke. Dont waste money on an expensive VIP room.

4. Fuck her short time (VIP Room) , but enquire as to the cost before hand , its not cheap , around Baht1500/2000 , which is expensive for this neck of the woods. Better , cellphone her and bang her in your hotel room next day (P500/1000)

5. Take out Long Time , all night ? It would be prohibitive cause an attractive gal might be able to secure 2/3 ST fucks in a night at the Karaoke itself , plus a bag of ladies drinks , plus cash flow in the form of VIP room rentals. Cellphone her and bang her in your room next day , lot cheaper.

CONCLUSION : And so our 'tour' of Chiang Mai comes to an end. If your a big city man, Chiang Mai will most probably not impress , especially cause places now close down 12 m/n , others 1am (governments clean up campaign affecting Chiang Mai severely). There are exceptions as listed above. If you like a more laid back lifestyle and dislike high rise environments, heavy pollution etc , 'Mai might just be the place for you. In my opinion, worth a peek . Like me, your first peek might not be your last !