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Beer Bars , Massage , Freelancers info re SEX with HOOKERS - BANGKOK Thailand

April 2002 to today

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for SEX with

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GUIDE only :

Use the information below as a broad guide only.

It will be helpful in getting you started.

I personally visit Thailand as much as possible , and then update the info below. Otherwise updates are based on proven reliable sources.

"Reviewed" (below) means info re-read and adjusted where necessary.

NOTE : The original 1am curfew for nightspots , varies a bit from town to town , nowadays. But the authorities seem to focus mainly on the 'lewd' GoGo Bars. Freelancers on the street and Disco's seem to be able to circumvent the 1am curfew in most towns/cities. There are other establishments that 'bend the rules' , sometimes only temporarily , until they are caught up with. Thailands sex scene is ever fluid/spermatic : )

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UPDATES : Reviewed February 2010

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The currency quoted on this website is the Thai Baht. For conversion to your local currency refer to : www.xe.net

MAPS : In the "Bangkok Basics" (Hotels Restaurants) link I discuss which Maps to buy and where you can buy them.

BEER BARS : First we will start with the more relaxed , laid back Beer Bars.

They are scattered here and there. For a real beer bar scene you have to go to Pattaya.

Bangkok .... In Soi 4 , attached to Nana Hotel is Golden Bar. In my experience quite nice girls working here , prices not over the top. Also good perv spot if your interested in looking across the road at what is going on at the entrance to NEP GoGo , usually plenty : )

So opposite the road (opposite side to Golden Bar) is the entrance to NEP GoGo and popular Big Dog Bar , elevated above the footpath , good observation tower and reasonable girls and prices here also. I always have a sit and perv at Big Dog Bar every trip to Bangkok. Mandatory : )

If you exited Big Dog and began walking towards Soi.4/Sukhumvit Road intersection , about 15 paces up on right side , is another beer bar also elevated up stairs , but not open like Big Dog. It is very popular too , but I do not like to be enclosed , like open air perv spot and observe. No free seats where I could perv whats going on outside so did not take a seat. Popular , maybe cause girls are good here , or prices lower ?

However , if you exited Big Dog Bar , and entered NEP you will find lots of beer bars on the ground floor level. What I saw there (girls) was not impressive , but maybe different when you call , especially if you have had a few beers beforehand : )

Beer Bars are scattered here and there throughout Bangkok. A beer bar is where you can pay a barfine and take girl back to your hotel room. Plenty of other places selling beer but girl can not be bar fined and taken away , normally. There is a difference between the two.

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BLOW JOB BARS

Star of Light - For BJ Bar conniseurs , a must visit. See GoGo Notes for detailed info. Located in Patpong .2. GoGo area. Seems to be the most popular BJ Bar in Bangkok. Not so convenient if living in Soi3/4 area however. Worth the trip there ? Most bj bar fanatics would say yes : ) But remember 1. Difficult to find 2. Grotty building and amenities 3. No better looking girls than Lolita's , see below.

As Star of Light is located in amongst GoGo Bars , please check GoGo page for info on that one.

Lolita's - Sukhumvit Soi 8. This place has location , location for those living in Soi3/4 area. Not grotty like Star of Light (see above) either : )

Entering from Sukhumvit Rd , walk down Soi 8 to Corleones Restaurant on the left hand side about 100 mtrs down. Almost opposite the Restaurant and on your right is a little Soi (Alleyway/Street) , the second one on your right from Suk' Rd. Walk down this Soi and towards the end and on your left you will see Lolitas big sign. The most convenient vacuum cleaning service/BJ Bar spot in the Sukhumvit area. Nice air con , nice mini bar and lounge chairs. When I was there , Cashier had a sense of humour and knows what she is doing (collecting money and not bj : ). Nice ambience.

When doing the deed curtains separate you from others. Baht700 to the Bar and a tip of Baht1/200 to the girl/lady. Sex is an additional Bt1000 (maybe less) same room as BJ or Bt1500 (maybe less) if you do it in a private room on 3rd Flr w' amenities. Some of the gals/ladies here , are not very pretty or attractive compared to other venues , but you don't go there to kiss them do you. Good looking girls do not normally work in blow job bars.

They have upstairs short time/ST rooms at Bt1500 room and gal. Make sure there is no bar fine added to that . Report to us if there is. If you take the girl back to your Hotel room , you pay Bt700 Bar Fine plus Bt1000 to the girl (3 hours).

On exiting Lolita's you could learn a new way of finding this place. Turn left on exiting the front door and follow your nose (walk straight ahead) until you come to a T (you cant go any further) thats Soi.4. Saves walking along Sukhumvit Road next time.

For clarification and latest info , check their website : www.lolitasbangkok.com Note : There is also a Lolita's in Pattaya nowadays. Staff from bangkok rotate with their Pattaya bar.

Other Blow Job places - See Go-Go Patpong Bangkok link/info where 2/3 'infamous' BJ Bars are in full swing.

Pattaya - is quite popular for BJ Bar action also. See Pattaya Nightlife info for details.

Other Towns/Cities : Bangkok and Pattaya are the most famous for their renowned 'vacuum cleaning' services. I do not know of any specialist bj bars elsewhere in Thailand , but no doubt they exist somewhere.

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Freelance spots in BANGKOK where you can find

HOOKERS for SEX :

DANCE FREELANCE spots:

The 1am closing time rarely applies to Disco's. Depends on varying factors.

Discos - An alternative way of finding your ‘dream girl’ , so long as you dont mind the thump thump of the music , admission charge , and expensive drinks.( Coke sometimes Baht 100/150 or more ) . Not all the girls at the disco’s listed herein are ‘on the make’, some of them are simply good girls out for a bit of fun. Also, always be on the alert for Katoeys , who sometimes ply their trade at Disco's. Thai’s are very conservative in public , but within the private confines of a disco they quite often let their hair down. An interesting study.

This is one area the Govt Authorities will find difficult to curtail. Possibly they are not overly concerned about Disco's or any dance pick up joints cause they are not so much 'in your face' as Go-Go's , with their tendency towards sex shows and nudity. Think you will find the Disco way of picking up a nice lay will grow in popularity , especially if the Govt keeps harrassing Go-Go's and other high profile venues. You don't have to dance cause its a disco , all you have to do is .... pay (the girl : ) but make sure its not some Thai guys girl friend you are approaching. Things can turn nasty awfully quickly if you hit on the wrong girl : )

Angels Disco

When I arrived in Bangkok 1978 Angels Disco was raging. Early/mid 2009 it closed down.

Will most probably start up again under a different name. Will let you know when that happens.

BEST DANCE FREELANCE :

Best pick up Disco's right now , are .... Climax , Spicy , and Bossy

Details on 1st two in Bangkok Pocket Book.

Bossy Disco - Not far from Soi.4 action area. Located in Pratunam area. All taxi drivers know it (they get a commission). Baht300 admission = first drink free. Seems it goes to 4/5am or beyond. Experience it whilst it lasts (whilst it continues to successfully bribe the authorities re late closing : ) Mix of good girls and hookers. More hookers than good girls , I suspect : ) Popular. Pay for each drink as you get them , otherwise distinct possibility of being overcharged later. You will not win any discussions re overcharging , and maybe even get beaten up by Bossy goons if you get aggressive about it , even when your clearly in the right. Pay as you order , best way (no chits/bills/invoices piling up some distance from you , and therefore no 'misunderstandings' : ) Girls here expect Baht 1,500 to 2000 ST (short time). My first trip to Bangkok and disco , ST was Baht100 : )

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Narcissus Disco -

Overall , and in general .... NOT a pick up disco.

Location ... at the back and to the left hand side of Pegasus (see below Pagasus). Baht550 entrance = three free drinks. I think it was Bt100 a beer thereafter. Prices have no doubt gone up since then. Great decor , atmosphere and non commercial feel about the place. On the night I was there lots of 7's and 8's and even the occasional 9. Spotted a 9.25 and a 9.50 there too : ) Foreigners 40yrs and younger , in a smiley mood have some chance here , but the audience in the main is well to do Thais. Maybe 1% are hookers , maybe not. All girls are hookers if they see what they like. It could be you : )

Call weekends , other nights no good. Its a weekend disco. Tread warily at Narcissus. The girls Thai boyfriend might be in the loo or something. Observe for sometime before making a move. If the gal is giving you the eye its generally the green light for a 'move'. No 'eye' no 'move'.

For me (oldie) not a pick up place , but a great voyeurs disco. I really enjoyed my time there. Finished 2.30am.

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Now we discuss Hard Rock Cafe , CM2 , Spasso and Riva's.

Getting to them :

Re the first three , you catch the Sky Train (BTS) at Phloen Chit E2 Station (Baht 20/25 ticket) , to Siam Square Station , and exit the left side of N1 Siam Station, turn right at bottom of Station stairs and walk short distance past Soi’s 5 & 4 to Soi.3. Walk to the end of Soi.3. and at the corner , look to your right and you will see a building not far off , on the left side , with a very large "Save the Planet" sign across the top of Hard Rock building. To the side of that building you'll see a "Hard Rock " neon sign. Note - Soi 1 starts on left of our screen , Soi 6 is where CM2 is located.

An alternative to the train is to catch a 50Baht taxi ex Soi.4 area. For the kind of money you are about to spend (Baht150 or more a drink) at these joints , you might as well taxi on over , and just say to the driver "Hard Rock Cafe ... Siam Square" , that should do it. Alternatively , get your Hotel Front Desk to write it down in Thai language for taxi driver.

Hard Rock Cafe. Excerpt from my "Fishin for Fun-2" Diary Oct 2005 :

"Baht250 entrance = 1 free drink. I enter , walk upstairs and confirm family type tourists in the main upstairs , whores and whoremongers down stairs. Downstairs I go. At 9.15pm there is not a single seat left. Two falangs are sitting by themselves at a four chair table. I know what they are up to .. they expect some honeys to approach them later on , asking permission to sit at their table. Devious : )

Get a Kloster Beer and stand at edge of bar , almost falling off onto lower level below me. Hardly even standing room in the place. I check the chicks out , they check me out. I would say at that time of night .. 40/50 chicks , maybe more , and standard 'ok'. Believe they ask Bt2/3000 ST , wouldnt pay it , same bodies at Angels Disco. Suspect there is mass migration across to CM2 Disco around 10.30pm - 11pm ? Anyway , Hard Rock is worth a visit , say 11pm onwards. Should be some talent there by then . Remember , the ugly ones arrive early : )"

CM2 - "Concept CM2". This is a popular pick up Disco that is maybe playing second fiddle to Climax and Spicy (see mention above).

Note : I have been to CM2 on more than one occasion but doubt if I will return again. I have got pretty good intelligence on the place without going there again. A guy in his fifties might struggle to walk out with a 'looker'. Peer pressure amongst the girls and all that : ) This applies at all 'young' disco's.

So, after leaving Hard Rock Cafe, if you walk back towards the direction from which you originally came, you will come across the Concept CM2 Nightclub/Disco on the corner of Soi.5. It’s below street level , under the Novotel Siam Hotel ("Lotus Novotel Siam Square Hotel"). Facing Novotel its a side entrance to your left in Soi.5 itself . There are steps leading down , under the Hotel. Walk down the steps , like entering a cave, to the ticket sellers . Arrive around 10/10.30pm for a choice of seats. Baht650 entrance = 2 drinks. Bt130 regular brands of beer , Bt190 Klosters (and maybe others). Prices are more likely to go up , than down : )

Nice layout and seating for possibly 3/500. In recent years the % of non hookers looking for fun has reduced significantly and also the % of 'lookers' has reduced. These 'missing people' must have migrated to some other place. My guess is the place became too much of a hookers haunt and the better ones , that dont want to enter a straight out hooker joint , have migrated elsewhere , but I dont know where. My guess is .. nowadays at least 98% at CM2 are hookers , maybe higher than that. Quality of Mongers has also declined. Even so , if your not as fussy as me , you will find adequate numbers of cuties to amuse you.

Is it worth the entrance and drinks price ? There is only one way to find out , go there. Lucky dip fella's , lucky dip. Move around to locate your 'quarry'. Dont get stuck at any one place. Remain flexible , your 'gem' is waiting for you , somewhere : )

Girls will ask more here (up market environment) than some other places. Are they worth it ? For me , certainly not. Significant number of foreign girls eg Russians etc plying their trade here and asking significantly more than the locals too , say Baht3000/5000 for a short time.

Normally for a regular Thai hooker .... Baht1500 ST , Baht2500/3000 LT (long time) , could be even more (Russians , 'model' types etc).

Sunday nights are supposed to be well catered for , and Monday night is ladies night (free entrance for babes).

Spasso Nightclub.

This one is not as popular as CM2. More about sophistication than sex : )

NOTE : All the following info has been collected 'second hand'. Never heard enough good stuff about the place to ever want to visit it personally.

This one is in the basement of the Grand Hyatt Erawan Hotel, near corner of Ratchadamri and Ploenchit Roads. Not far from the World Trade Centre and/or Novotel. By this time, Angels was beckoning me and so I did not check it out. Got a feeling it's not for me. Apparently entrance at Spasso's Friday & Sat is Baht 750 after 10pm , which includes the first two drinks. Thereafer your beer will cost you Bt300. Possibly no cover charge and not as much action Mondays to Thursdays. Once again , not necessarily all the girls here are Hookers. Tread warily.

The Thai Freelancers here are asking as much as Baht 2000 min Short Time and 3000 min LT and more , up to Baht5000 ! (never pay it). With deft bargaining they can be had for Bt2000 LT , depends on how you appeal to the girl and how biz for her is (other suitors ?). General opinion is they are a little older and overpriced here , compared to CM2 (see above). Sundays its quiet. Some of these girls could be ex Go-Go girls , dressed in evening gowns , trying to recoup the extra cost of operating out of such an expensive place (Spasso). High class hookers by price only ? What is 'high class', the price or the person ? High class sex ex Spasso ? Unlikely : )

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Riva's -

NOTE : All the following info has been collected 'second hand'. Never heard enough good stuff about the place to ever want to visit it personally.

Similar to Spasso in style , operation and prices , except Ladies might cost a little less. Not so well regarded as Spasso's though. Babes operating out of here considered a little older and overpriced when compared with a place like CM2 (above). Located on the ground floor in the Sheraton Grande in Sukhumvit , between Sois 12 and 14 (opposite Robinsons on the other side of the road , corner Soi.17). Places like Spasso's and Riva's have style but do not represent value for money. Personal opinion : ) Quiet on Sundays. UPDATE : They have started charging Bt500 entrance fee = 2 drinks , but this might up the cost of the ladies. There are better places , eg CM2 for budget upscale , or Angels for budget medium scale. Prices might have increased even further since then : )

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No dance freelance , concerns places where there is no loud music and there is no dancing. Soi.7 Bier Garten , and/or Thermae (traditional and voyeuristic) and/or Gullivers. Outside Nana Hotel on the footpath up to 30 hookers hanging around at times. Quality usually ok. Another new player is Spice Club in Soi.11 (off Sukhumvit Rd). Baht200 entrance = one drink. Kicks off late at night say 12 midnight and goes well beyond the normal 1am closing time , possibly 3/5am.

Note - previous security tips re Freelancers. You’ve got no recourse with these Ladies. They can disappear into the night and you will never find them. Hygiene checks ? - no. Complain to mama-san about poor service ? - no , no mama-san to complain to. Have they stolen from other Freelance customers before ? No one knows.

Its a real gamble with freelancers, but we 'mongers are gamblers by nature anyway. Try and get the odds in your favour as best you can . Shop wisely - no refunds , no returns : )

Nana Hotel footpath , an alternative to Thermae.

Update : There are less girls hanging around here nowadays. Nana Hotel kicked the girls out of Parking Lot , so girls migrated elsewhere. You will find up to 30 hanging around on footpath outside Nana Hotel , and others circulating around on other side of road. All up there might be 40 or so hookers in this area. Not of the best quality either : )

These street girls expect .. 1000 ST (Short Time) and Baht1500/2000 LT (to sun up or say 9am at a stretch) will suffice. Naturally they ask for more , up to Bt1500 (ST) ! If you look hungry they will ask for more , if they look hungry you will offer less. "Don't look hungry" : ) Note : Beware of Katoeys (she-men) in this and NEP areas. Early hours of the morning when mongers are drunk , Katoeys pounce. Quite often with intent of eventually robbing you in some way. Usually its regular girls on Nana Hotel side and Katoeys on the other side , but dont bet on it : )

As you can see in Update above , numbers down nowadays , but still enough there worth checking out , especially if you include the Big Dog Bar side of Soi.4 (normally katoey infested). All up around 40 hookers on the prowl. .

Grace Coffee Shop - Location Soi.3 . Enter Grace Hotel. Update ... no Coffee Shop with anything of a hooker scene anymore. Forget Grace Hotel/Coffee Shop. However there is an A-rab orientated disco downstairs near where Cof Shop used to be. Baht200 entrance , overweight women to suit the A-rab clientele and nothing much else. Waste of time when there are so many other more interesting places in Bangkok.

Bamboo Bar : Apparently in front of Grace Hotel and open to 5am , Freelancers. Never been there myself , suspect overweight b. graders for the A-rab clientele , only. Think it might be on the opposite side of street actually.

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Gullivers - Soi.5. , off Sukhumvit Road , about 125mtrs up on the right hand side , big neon sign on building. Bars and Pool Tables. Free Newspapers and free Internet connection. Respectable tourist folks sitting outside , respectable Mongers and Freelancers inside : ) Big building , quality furnishings. Quite a contrast with Beer Garden in Soi.7. and Gulliver girls are therefore ' aloof ' by comparison. They do not necessarily make eye contact with ya' , especially the girls playing pool. Ones sitting at tables are more likely to check ya out. For a lad on a short vacation with limited time , maybe the less sophisticated Beer Garden is better , as the girls there waste no time there letting you know they are interested : ) Younger guys ... Gullivers. Older guys .... Beer Garden. Go to both : )

Even though Gullivers is relatively 'sophisticated' , check your bills and watch your valuables. The girls here ask Baht1500 (Short Time). Worth it ? Personally , I do not think so , I'd give em Baht1000 ST (Bt1500/2000 long time) I dont pay for sophistication or slick decor , I pay for sex : ) Sometimes same girls can be seen in nearby Beer Garden (see info this page) offering themselves for Baht1000. Vice versa Beer Garden girls in Gullivers , but more the exception. And further still , same Gullivers girls at CM2 Disco asking Baht1500/2000 ST. Certain places have the reputation for paying certain prices , but girls can be same quality. Pay for a quality girl , not a quality building/furnishings/aura : )

UPDATE : Last trip it was full and busy. For a younger guy , must visit. Older guys can score here too , but need to be reasonably well dressed , that is , look like your not a budget banger like me. Some visits place has been quiet , others very busy , depends on time and day.

Beer Garden Soi.7. - Next street up from Gullivers. At least x 5 times more "no bullshit" girls on offer at Beer Garden , compared to Gullivers , but hard to find a quality girl here. Not impossible but hard. Upon entering Soi 7 , you'll see a large 'tin shed' on your left hand side , say 50mtrs up. Plenty of signage , you can not miss it. Lots of not so sharply dressed lads here nursing a drink , waiting for their dream girl to arrive : ) Food and drink prices moderate. Price of girls ST (short time) Baht 700 - 1000 normally. If a Gullivers style girl she will most probably ask Baht1500 ST. LT (long time/all night) = Baht 1500/2000 normally. Most of them are Baht 1000 ST and Baht 1500 LT. No noisy music , big barn , with lots of girls who start arriving 12noon , 7pm on best time , Fridays and Saturdays biggest selection. You have to try this one and Thermae (see below) ... must visits when you visit Bangkok.

Apparently in Soi 7/1 , there is a place called Tequila Dragon, with Pool and Freelance girls. Big bonus is .... very late closing hours. Didnt see it.

Soi. 3 to Soi 15 : Street Pick Ups - Sois 3 - 15. A very busy area 1am onwards.

Soi 3 - 5 This is where the bottom feeders hang out. If your interested in attractive girls or 'lookers' , I can tell you now you will not find em here. Exceptions might prevail from time to time , of course. Especially now that Nana Car Park girls have been kicked out. On one occasion walking along Suk between Soi 3 - 5 was surprised with the quality , think it was 1/2am.

Firstly, make sure it is a girl and not a he/she (katoey) that you are looking at , especially along Sukhumvit Road near corner of Soi 4/3 in the early hours of the morning. The later it gets the higher the ratio of katoeys. Katoeys are targeting drunk mongers , and not uncommonly for the wrong reasons (theft).

Bt500/700 Short Time Bt1000 Long Time is the correct rate for these desperate Sukhumvit Street Soi3 - 5 souls. They are the bottom of the barrel. Watch your valuables with this lot. Definitely condom time , definitely. Exception ... Some reasonable quality girls sometimes stand here too , nowadays. If so , ST is Bt1000 LT 1500. The b.grade ones 700/1000 , the better ones 1000/1500.

Broadly speaking the first two/three hundred metres of either side of Sukhumvit (odds side better) heading South-East (towards Soi Cowboy) from the corner of Soi4/3 is the beat for these 'desperate' girls. Odds side of the road is where it all happens , though.

Significant number can be found between Soi's 3 and 5 . Although you will also come across street touts in the same area trying to sell you this or that , or just simply trying to rip you off in some way.

Further down the odds side of Sukhumvit is the Ambassador Hotel and an outdoor foodcourt which is supposedly a pick up spot in the early hours of the morning. Dont know personally about that , but do know that the odds side of Sukhumvit Road from Soi.3 for 2/3 hundred metres heading South East is the liveliest FL area. Not saying a lot cause quality in this area is definitely lacking. Exception : GoGo girls after work , having a snack.

Along Sukhumvit , some touts show you an Album of girls. Do the girls in the Album exist ? Sit down at one of the side walk 'Cafes' (small tables and fold up chairs) drink a beer , and let him bring the dream doll he is showing you in the Album. Chances are he can't : ) Ambassador Plaza and Soi.11 areas are noteable for these Album touts.

Along Sukhumvit , between Soi 13 (7/11 Store ) - Soi 15 (Thermae) , late at night is supposedly Bangkoks 'Paris', with sidewalk 'cafe's' and interesting people circulating around. I think all you will find is plastic tables and chairs on the footpath : ) An outdoor Thermae . Yes , well its certainly interesting for a voyeur type like me , but dont expect to secure a nice one. Nice ones are usually taken. It can happen but maybe only one in ten or more reconnoitres.

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Thermae Coffee House - Briefly mentioned before under Beer Bars. Here is more detailed info.

1am closing has curtailed Thermaes activities somewhat. Starts to kick off around 9pm , 10pm to 12 midnight peak period for selection. Japanese or Koreans frequent the place too , pushing the prices up. Stories of Secretaries etc trying to find rent here are largely 'myth'. Expect to see regular hookers. Some are attractive , most are regular looking. Nevertheless it is one of many spots you should check out .. you just never know , you might get lucky and find a nice one there. Last trip I was surprised with the improved quality and quantity of girls operating out of Thermae. Worth checking out.

YD 90 ....ST Baht1000/1500 (former is enough) ....LT Baht1500/2000 (can be 1000LT if girl desperate). Good lookers , if you can find any , may ask for more and are snapped up rather quickly. Some will only go with the high spending Japanese. Keep your eyes peeled on the front door and approach any looker rather quickly. If you dont , someone else will : ) Generally speaking better quality than Beer Garden (mentioned above) primarily cause of big spending Japanese and Koreans.

History/Background : In days gone by and in the early hours of the morning all roads led to Thermae" , aka , Desperado’s Dungeon. A really Lottery, if ever there was one (part of the fun). A must for the traditionalists. Been there since the Vietnam War. American r 'n r lads got it up and running : ) Americans won the war , Japanese won the chicks (Thermae 2nd millenium : )
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Thermae is a Greek work meaning, something like -‘bath house’.. Thermae was established in 1967. Originally there was Thermae Massage Parlour above with a Coffee Shop below. Popular with American servicemen. Massage girls would drift down to the coffee shop after work. Eventually the Coffee Shop became more popular than the Massage Parlour and why not , prices would have been right , for starters. The Coffee Shop was a bar right from the start. I first visited Thermae in l978 in the old building. In the mid nineteen nighties they pulled it down for high rise development and now its located close to the original spot , between soi 13 and 15 , closer to 15, in the basement of the Ruam Chitt Plaza 199 Sukhumvit Road.

As you face the entrance to the Ruam Chitt , you will see a Thermae neon sign and stairway on the right hand side leading down into the basement and Thermae.

Do not go too early. Its a Nightowl spot and you should not be there before 10pm. Closes down 1am (used to close down 6am : ). If anything happens at Thermae its in that small time frame. Best , to arrive at 10pm , sit at bar , pounce on anything attractive that walks through the door : )

On the evens side of Sukhumvit Road , in front of Pacific Place near Landmark Hotel (between Soi4 & 6) , is another pick up spot. Always be on guard for katoeys.

Since the governments enforced 1 am closing , ladies who would normally prop at a place like Thermae till sun-up , are now hanging around the streets after 1am looking for a falang fish. It could be you : )

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Siam Hotel Coffee Shop

Closed

Building demolished !

Oh , dear , I always liked to visit Siam Coffee Shop. No more , finished. Building demolished.

If you want to know what it was like before demolition ... read on :

This is the "Thais Thermae" , but a classier scene than Thermae and minus the smoke. Not shown on any of our maps. Location : New Petchaburi Road (Pron : Petboori). If you ask taxi driver for 'Siam Hotel Coffee Shop" chances are he will not understand you. Pronounce Siam : See-Yaam , to be understood. Best to say "Siam Hotel , Petboori Road" (See-Yaam Otel Petboori Rodt) Also , he might mistakingly take you to Siam City Hotel , not the one. Happened to me once. Its about a Bt65/75 taxi ride from the corner of Soi.3. and Sukhumvit Rd.

Let me say early on , if you do not speak Thai and want to have a conversation with the gal of your choice , forget Siam , English is not spoken. As usual exceptions prevail. Not as many girls as Thermae , about fifty at its peak. Laid back , demure , thai style place. Cowboys not welcomed.

There are two coffee rooms at Siam. The only one to consider nowadays is the one at the back 12m/n on'. Front one is a warm up area to 11.30pm before the action in the backroom. Enter main doors of Siam Hotel , turn left and walk through small door to a large coffee shop area (backroom). Alternatively just ask Front Desk "Coffee Shop". 1am to 3am seems to be prime time. Opens till around 6am I believe (never stayed that long). Punters are 99.99% Asian. Koreans , Japanese and Thais. Normally there are no falangs in attendance. Girls do not speak English and will most probably charge you more , cause it tarnishes their image when they walk out with a white caribou. See Yaam meat is meant for Asians not Caucasians.

Prices are Baht1500 ST Baht2/2500 LT. But you can pay less , or more , depends on demand/supply/quality. There are some average looking hookers mixed in amongst attractive ones. Sometimes you've got 9's and 8's there ... lookers. The average looking girls would be worth no more than Bt1000 ST and Bt1500 LT. Glass of beer Bt80 , large bottle Bt135. Beer after 1am but not bottle beer. You might find a couple of 'boilers' (babes past their use by date) acting as Pimps inside Siam. They are handy if you do not speak English. Price goes up using them , but convenient way of getting a girl to your table. Buy female pimp a drink and get her to translate for you. Otherwise Thai language skills help, but money is a great communicator too : )

Short Time rooms are available in the adjoining Siam Hotel itself at Bt450/500 , way to go. Same building. Alternatively you could stay at the Siam , Bt867 Double Room (large bed etc). So convenient come down from your room , see if anything nice in the Coffee Shop , if not walk around to the back street (2 mins) , if not , hop in a taxi and off somewhere else.

There used to be a lot of girls hanging around front of Siam Hotel. Last trip not so (Police drive) Anyway the better ones were always inside. Better ones have money cause they have another bread and butter job eg Massage/KTV whatever and fuck for a higher price = more cash on hand for drinks and food inside Siam. Some times you will find small number of girls under tree to left of entrance to Siam. They are under control of pimps and quality varies , sometimes great , sometimes ordinary. Better than those are the 'Back Road' girls ... read on :

New happening : In the back road , behind Siam Hotel. Update : Yes there are thai speaking freelancers in the Backstreet , behind where Siam Hotel was. They are for Thai clientele and might not want to go with you. For sure they do not know english or foreigners sex requirements , and pretty as they might be , turn out to be bad value : )

Before demolition of Siam Hotel , this was the scene in Backroad :

You will find 30 (eg Sunday night) to 100 girls (eg Friday or Sat night) lining the road and 30 or more cars crawling past checking them out at any one time. Quite a scene. To find back road , exit front main door of Siam Hotel , turn left onto Petchaburi Rd , take first street turn left (30/40 mtrs ?) and then take first left again (30mtrs) , then your on the back road and the girls begin at that corner. Back road runs parallel with Petchaburi Rd. Take a seat at the plastic tables by the road side , drink Beer Chang for 30Bt and observe : ) Alternatively catch a taxi outside Siam Hotel and tell driver to turn first left , then first left again , tell him drive slowly "Lady" , he will understand what your up to. Then on a slow crawl , inspect the ladies standing by the road side. Prices here lower than inside Siam Hotel but still high , as far as I am concerned. They will ask for Bt1500 ST. Update .. Backroad is actually 'Kamphaeng Phet 7 Road'.

Which are better , Angels or Siam girls ? Depends , each night varies. Best to check both. Angels has the proficiency in English. Siam inside has the quality (not quantity) but speak little or no English , and are most prob uncertain as to falangs requirements. Angels girls speak english and certainly know falangs requirements : )

I am wondering where those nice looking Coffee Shop girls hang out nowadays ?

Note ... As indicated above , Siam Hotel and Coffee Shop has been demolished. No more.

Watch your valuables with all Freelance girls , regardless of where you meet them.

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MASSAGE PARLOURS

Best hours : 4pm - 6pm for full selection. But nothing guaranteed in that respect. 7pm on the tourist buses loaded with Japanese , whoever , start arriving , scooping up wholesale numbers of girls.

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Plaza Entertainment Centre (MP's) is popular ,especially Cupidy's (suckers only ?) but you have to take evasive action to avoid taxi commission at this place.

Info on all of them below.

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You’ll never run out of Massage Parlours. They are everywhere. The Asoke - Din Daeng - Rama 9 Road area is the Bangkok Massage area. See below , if taxi commission applies , get driver to drop you off then walk away from the place , sit down have a drink whilst driver knicks off = 500 Baht cheaper massage.

Massages are very popular with Westerners and Asians alike. Not a bad way to be introduced to Thailand after a long plane trip. Herein lies a miniscule amount of information about a big subject - Massage. Most guys have their own favourite places.

Kinds of Massage -

Thai/Traditional massage: does not involve any sex. 2/300Bt. On principle , I do not supply info on these non sex massages : )

Body/Soapy (and , or , Oil) Massage is the one with sex.

Before agreeing to price ,ask the mama/papa-san if the girl of your choice can do the necessary ‘tricks’ (bbbj ; anal etc) . Once that is clarified you can get on with it : bucket of soapy water, you on the air mattress, she lathers you, she rolls and writhes all over your body getting your stick up, blow job, boom boom , one and a half/two hours. Thats a soapy massage. On average, Massage Parlour girls are better looking than the : Freelancers , Beer Bar girls and Go-Go girls. But there are always exceptions : )

MASSAGE PARLOURS walking distance from Soi.4. :

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Darling Massage - Sukhumvit Soi. 12 , 5/7 min walk from NEP area. As you turn into Soi.12 you will see a giant Darling Neon sign on your right. Can’t miss it. About 60 girls, Baht 2500 - 2900, (90 mins) plus tip and therefore not cheap. Ignore papa-san when he says "two girls better" , unless of course you want two girls (and two prices). Darling does not pay taxi commissions. Hours , usually 4pm to 11pm. Maybe on Sat/Sunday 1pm on. Darling is mostly a convenience factor , short walk from our recommended accommodation. Better looking girls than Annies (below) , thats for sure. Update ... Darling is slipping behind places like Nataree , Tulip etc.

Nana Massage - Apparently located within the Nana Hotel itself , ground floor , near the lifts . Note : Never seen the place myself though. They can send massage girls to your Nana room , apparently. Never hear anything about it , so cant be too great.

This is the Rajah Hotel , a short walk down from Nana Hotel. The area that 3 & 4 are in is a large Car Park. You enter the Rajah car park from Soi.4 , passing Rajah to Annies on the same side.

ANNIES MASSAGE

Annies Massage - For years this one has been a Budget Bangers Massage. Couple of years ago they upped their prices and now they have upped them again to Baht1700 , 2 hrs , 2 shots guaranteed , or Baht2500 , younger girls , 2 hrs , 2 shots guaranteed. Not sure what 'younger girls' means , could mean under 30yrs , dont know. Not sure how they are going to go now cause their building is not upscale , its budget. Atmosphere is budget. Plus it has a reputation of no stunners , but service yes.

A tip of Bt 300/500 on top of that , is expected , but not mandatory/compulsory. Poor service = no tip.

Before the latest price rise this is what I wrote ...

This small sized place goes up and down in popularity. It's clean enough , but possibly needs renovation , often lacking sufficient young attractive girls , other times got em. But for sure its always got location , location , otherwise it might be ignored by some mongers. See location below , short walk from NEP/Nana. Most other MP's involve taxi/train trips. Girls on the older side (still look under 30 , some even look teenage). You can get younger prettier ladies elsewhere (see below) , but maybe not better service. Annies is mostly a convenience (location) factor : ) If it satisfies you and your staying in nearby Hotels we list , you have got convenience par excellence. Worth one look at least , might be for you.

Location -

Walking from NEP , away from Sukhumvit/Soi.4. intersection , turn right into Rajah Hotel car parking area at the 7/11 Store. Once you have entered the car park , walk past Rajah Hotel entrance on your left, to 50 metres further , and at the end of parking area on your left hand side, corner of Soi .2. is Annies Balcony Restaurant with greenery dangling from it. Hours - 10am to 12 midnight. Hours may have varied and can be flexible. Up the stairs and straight ahead to a cute bar and a small fishpond to your right. 15/20 girls at any one time. Aey (woman) is the service orientated Manager , who will most likely greet you. Note : do not mix up with any other "Annies" Bar in Rajah car park. Walk all the way to Annies Balcony Restaurant with greenery (plants) (30 mtrs past Rajah entrance). Last on left.

The Mama-san (Aey) will explain all the details to you. If you come in a taxi , ask for Rajah Hotel. If driver says ‘Massage’, say no, otherwise he will want to take you to another place where he gets commission. Annies does not pay taxi commissions , hence price is not inflated like some other places. See below for info re Taxi Commissions. After being dropped off in front of Rajah’s walk 30/40 mtrs max. (to your right , if you were facing Rajahs front door) to Annies. Location , location , its got location but its lacking in beauty and other aspects. Popular with enough to want to check it out.

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"Plaza Entertainment Centre "

Note : This is another one that has declined in popularity recent times. Still worth a look , if you have time. Big show.

How to get there , three possibilities ...

1. A 15 min walk up Soi.3. Coming from corner of Soi.3. and Sukhumvit Road walk up the right hand side of Soi.3. past Grace Hotel etc for 15 more mins , passing over New Petchaburi Road to a T intersection of sorts (Name : Makkasan Junction ?). If you look to your right at this intersection you will see a high rise with the 'Plaza Entertainment' sign at the top. Actually you will see this sign on the high rise well before you reach that intersection. Turn right at this intersection head straight towards the Plaza sign , through a car park of sorts.

2. Alternatively , if your not the 'athletic' type .... take a taxi to Prince Hotel , and take a short walk through to the tall Plaza Entertainment building (large sign near top). Thus avoiding a taxi commission (Bt500) being added to the cost of your lady. Let taxi driver think your going to Prince. If he says "massage" , say something like : "oh no , have wife" : )

3. Or , if heading for Cupidy Massage (12noon to 12m/n) , take taxi to front door of Plaza Enter. building and enter its front doors. Do not mention the word 'Cupidy' , ask for PE building only. Once inside the building take the lift/stairs on your right down to Cupidy. Thus fooling the taxi driver , cause you will pay a hefty taxi commission (Bt500) when you order a girl , IF you arrive at Cupidy's front door in a taxi : )

Walk in (no taxi) :

1. Following the '15min walk to' instructions above , you will find on passing through the car park area , underneath and to the right of the Plaza building a neon sign 'Cupidy Massage' Baht 1800 for the fish bowl girls and Baht2200 for the 'sideliners' sitting on the couch. I must admit this one has become to be known as a place for sucker tourists. Nataree , Tulip and many others preferred ahead of this one nowadays.

Do not let papa-san push you into a selection. Order a drink sit down , relax , perv and select at your own pace. If papa-san pushy tell him "later" (come back later). If problem with price say "I paid Baht1800 last time" (fishbowl). Check this one out first , as it seems to be more popular than the other two MPs in Plaza building , mentioned below. To my eyes the girls on offer were rather ordinary/regular (nothing special) for massage girls , however , think it was about 9pm , two hours late , and things were hopping. A large group of japanese had just arrived and others were arriving all the time. Pond was rather depleted , lots already taken and shaggin their heads off ? : ) Management pays taxi commission = busy MP. This place is famous cause its busy , cause they pay taxi commission and thus taxi drivers drag falangs to the place kicking and screaming : ) Suggest you enter main Entertainment Plaza door (see above) around 7pm , slip down in the elevator = full display ? , and minus taxi commission of Bt500.

2. If you choose to ignore 'Cupidy' and continue to walk straight ahead all the way to the front of the tall Plaza Entertainment building , then walk up the 'marble' stairway and through the large main door entrance where you will find more Massage girls , both on the ground level and at 6th floor level.

Once inside this building , as I said , walk straight ahead and you will find two seperate ponds (Massage windows) on your left. Herein resides possibly 50/75 in total at any one time , if you arrive before popular ones are taken. Hype says the 'models' are on the 6th Floor. On arrival at 6th Floor , exit elevator turn left , then turn first right , then turn first left , straight ahead across and up steps entering 'Le Lela' Club where I found about twenty so-so babes , not 'models'. Better girls on ground floor and better $ value in 'Cupidy' (basement). NOTE : On my last 'inspection' , there was only one (yes one) girl in large pond and 15/20 in sideline pond , smiling to Japanese customers. Looks like I struck a very busy night AND called too late (9pm). Suggest you call 7pm.

I have not as yet asked re prices (too shy : ) but believe at ground level they are asking Baht2000 for Fishbowl girls and Bt3/4000 for Sideliner girls (smaller pond , no glass). There are some 'lookers' amongst them. Compare Baht1800 at 'Cupidy' down below in the basement , also with some 'lookers' , sometimes. Sixth Floor they ask Baht4/4700 I believe. Certainly not worth it , especially when compared with the girls on the ground floor or Cupidy , in the basement. Two hours , regardless of the MP you select.

Prices in the main building itself are unreal , just as good or better for less elsewhere , eg , Cupidy in the basement. Some guys think cause the price is high the gals are classy. This is only the case some of the times. Be discerning and decide for yourself if the gal/s themselves are 'classy' or the price is just for guys looking for a 'classy' price.

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MASSAGE PARLOURS train/taxi ride from Soi.4. :

Chao Phya .1 and Chao Pyha .2 Massage Parlours :

Chao Phya .1. Massage Parlour.

It's in Sri Ayuthaya Road/Street . After catching the Skytrain to Phaya Thai N2 Station , you exit Station exit No.4 , and head in a northerly direction turning right at the first intersection , a few short metres away. Your now in Sri Ayuthaya Road , same side as you exit the train , Florida Hotel is on the corner of this intersection (No.6 on the map below). It is then a short walk to Chao Phya.1 Massage Parlour , set back from the footpath. Next door is the Phayathai.1 Hospital (No.8 on the map below).

You will find at Chao Phya .1 a long straight row of 60/80 girls who look younger and possibly prettier than CP2. Reports coming in , saying numbers of girls going down , don't know , do not visit MP's normally. Pushy Papa-san spoils it. Baht 1800 quoted. No tables and chairs to sit and conjure up which one to take. Not the relaxed environment of CP2. On exiting , noticed small Pond on the right , with 10/12 so-called ‘Superstars‘, Baht 2200. Some of which looked downright worn and ugly. Must be good at something : ). Overall - CP2 for me.

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Chao Phya.2 (CP2) Massage Parlour - 537 Sri Ayuthaya Road/Street.

For the curious only ..... "Continuing on past CP.1. Massage , you walk another 5/7 mins (300 mtrs ?) along Sri Ayuthaya Road where you will see on the opposite side of the road a huge Neon sign "Chao Phya.2" on a large building which looks like a 300 bed Hotel. Large car park in front of the building which is set back off the road. When I was there , 1/200 cars parked in car park (lots of humpin and pumpin goin' on : )

To right of CP2's main entrance is "Sexy Night Club". Didnt look too sexy to me at 8.30pm . Most probably kicks off later. Enter main doors of the building and you come across a huge curve shaped fish bowl with up to 70/80 girls of varying categories. Plus more in the rooms , 'doin the deed'. However , numbers might be down nowadays.

There are tables and seats where you can drink a beer and perv, although you are some distance from the 'bowl' , that is the fish bowl where the ladies sit, waiting to be selected. Papa-sans are relaxed types. Not pushy. Signif. number of Thais sitting around perving. Take Baht1900 as the average price for these girls , 90 mins. Three categories Bt1700 ; 1900 ; 2000. Papa-san will explain. Reports coming in lately , say numbers of girls on offer is going down , way down (say only 50 on display nowadays) , don't know , do not visit MP's on a regular basis. If numbers down , its most probably a sign of it's impending 'death'. No taxi commission , to the best of my knowledge , otherwise get out of taxi at Europa Inn to avoid commission.

Taxi - As far as I know , CP2 does not pay taxi commissions , but if you want to avoid that possibility , have the driver drop you off at Europa Inn (No.9 on the Map above) and then walk across to Chao Phya .2 (No.10 on the Map).

UPDATE : On my last 'inspection' , choices were not all that brilliant. This happens all the time at all venues (Freelance Bars , Disco's , Massage , wherever) .. some nights 'lookers' other nights unimpressive. "If at first you do not succeed , try , try again" another place : )

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NATAREE -

167/17-20 Ratchadaphisek Road , Ding Daeng. One of most popular MP's right now. Most probably cause they seem to have a lot of young girls (18 to early twenties). Taxi to it : Alight at Emerald Hotel and walk a few steps to Nataree. From NEP area , catch Nana skytrain to Asok station. Follow your signs to MRT (Underground Rail) and catch train to to Huai Kwang Station , alight and take exit 3. As you exit the station (exit 3) you will see a huge Emmanuelle neon sign walk towards it , pass it and you will find Nataree (neon sign). Its the next building after Emmanuelle , on the same side. After Nataree is Emerald Hotel.

Building : Entrance to soapy sex massage itself is to the right hand side (right neon sign). Oil non sex massage to left entrance (Bt800). Soapy popular , stocked with pretty gals. Possibly best time 3pm-5pm for full selection. Usually 50 or more girls on display. Hours 1pm-12m/n. Prices - Fishbowl (regular girls) Bt2000 2 hrs. Sideliners Bt2200-3000 1.5hrs. Guys who previously liked CP2 (info above) now like Nataree or Tulip (see below).

I personally visited this place two times on last trip. Eye Candy Central. They have got the lookers here. On one visit about 50 girls , next visit about 125 girls , and not a 'dog' in the house. Eye Candy , at a price : )

Note : Taxi driver might try and take you to some other Massage Parlour where he gets a nice commission. His commission is added onto the price of the girls. He might say , eg "Nataree no good" etc. Do not take any notice of him , and insist on your destination. Better still , get dropped off at next door Emerald Hotel , or go by train.

TULIP -

This one stands out because of satisfaction level. Not necessarily the prettiest of girls , not ugly either , but for something like a 'porn' experience , the lads praise this one. Should not be missed. You should try Nataree , Tulip and then maybe Annies. Then you've got some idea of the Bangkok massage scene. Pretty sure no taxi commission applies at Tulip. 2pm on best. To get there catch a BTS sky train to station "Thong Lo E6". Take Exit 4 , exit west side (oncoming Sukhumvit traffic below you) , that is , evens side of Sukhumvit Road , and under station 30mtrs away , in NEP direction , you will find Tulip (806/2-3 Sukhumvit 38 Road , near Thonglor Junction). Before you go down the steps and onto the footpath below , look hard right and you will see a Tulip sign attached to the building (on evens side of Sukhumvit Rd) . When you get to bottom of exit stairway you do a hard turn right and start walking in NEP direction , that is , with the traffic. 30 metres up you cross over a Soi on your left. Continue along Sukhumvit Rd and twenty metres further along you come across Tulips shop front. Looks like a traditional massage massage place from outside , but inside its Western traditional porno , so the lads say : ) Phone : 0-2391-7564 / O-2381-2349

They show you girls in photo album , otherwise you go down stairs and see in the flesh those who are available at time of your visit. Suggest you do that. Hours 10am - 12 midnight. I would go anytime after 4pm , earlier and you might get the desperado's who find it hard to secure customers. Popular ones do not need to come early.The massage itself (oily variety) can easily be dispensed with. It's only a cover for the real biz ... fucking. 1hr with girl = Bt400 massage/room fee paid up front , then another Bt1500 is expected for possibly the best sex ever , handed directly to girl after time up. 90mins = Bt600 plus Bt1500. 2hrs = Bt800 plus Bt1500. Note : The Bt1500 is the standard amount you give to girl , but if you think she is extra-ordinary , then there is nothing stopping you from giving her more than that : ) BJ only = Baht500 plus room charge.

Possibly the sexiest and best trained massage ( ? sex ) girls in bangkok. Expect to walk out of there wobbly and 'shagged' ....Note ... I have not experienced it first hand , and never will , they sound too sexy for me : )

Emmanuelle -

UPDATE ... I have been there , visited the place two times , total of four girls only both times , yet a giant of a building. I think Nataree next door with all its young eye candy has put them out of business. Forget Emmanuelle not worth visiting. Nataree (see above) yes , Emmanuelle , a definite no !

Before Update .... Just off Ratchadaphisek Road. One block north of Emerald Hotel. Directions : Sky train to Asoke station , then MRT Underground rail to Huai-Khwang station and take Exit 3 at that station. On exiting you will see a big Emmanuelle sign. Alternatively , catch a taxi to the Emerald Hotel , alight and walk a short distance in a Northerly direction (towards Huai-Khwang station). This avoids the possibility of a taxi commission. Prices : Bt1900 to Bt3500 plus a Bt600 Farang (foreigner) surcharge. Popular place , worth checking ( ???? see Update above).

UTOPIA - 69/1-3 Rama 9 Rd , Huay Kwang. Catch taxi. To avoid possibility of a taxi commission : When he goes to turn into Utopia , tell him , "changed mind" and get him to drop you off at a shop few metres further on. Exit taxi , enter shop whatever and when taxi has taken off backtrack to Utopia. Why ? Cause your already going to pay Bt1500 farang/foreigner surcharge on Utopia's already heavy prices. Why cost so much ? Supposedly good looking girls , don't know , never been there , but will go there one day to find out for myself. So you do not want to pay an additional taxi commission (Bt500 or more) cause you arrived in a taxi.

You could take the attitude the Bt1500 is a 'dont like falang/foreigner' levy , as I believe the girls get Bt1000 of the levy. Or you might take it as a 'big dick' or 'smelly' levy. All the more reason to fuck them : )

Lots of girls , quality , and high prices. Fishbowl Bt2000/2200 + Bt1500 surcharge ; Sideliners Bt2400 + Bt1500 surcharge. There are 'models' too. Better see your Bank Manager before considering them : ) My experience with 'models' , they are tired looking older women with pseudo sophistication. Personally I think they are a set up for suckers. Mention the word 'model' and guys open their wallets. But I have yet to visit Utopia (will do next trip) , so cant really say , in this case : )

Another sucker one is 'students'. Mention 'student' and guys start to salivate (forbidden fruit) and spend accordingly. Lots of 'models' and students are just regular girls , posing as something else (to relieve you of more money).

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Poseidon - Poseidon Entertainment , Ratchadaphisek Rd , opposite Grand Hotel. Suttisarn (Sutthisan) underground (MRT) rail station is 100mtrs North of Poseidon. Getting there by taxi : to Grand Hotel , stop taxi at overpass footbridge. Walk across to ten story pink/orange building. By train : board MRT train to Sutthisan , exit 4 (escalator) to Ratchadaphisek Rd. Poseidon is in a ten story pink/orange building , about 500mtrs South towards Huai-Khwang Station. 1st Flr Karaoke with dancers. Hard if not impossible to take these girls out. 2nd Flr (upstairs) , opens 2pm : Bt2000-2500 for 90mins plus the Bt500 falang (foreigner) surcharge. 3rd Flr (elevator on 1st Flr) , opens 5pm : Bt2900 up to Bt5500 for 90mins plus Bt1000 falang surcharge. Prices vary a lot , they try and suck as much money out of you as possible. If they think you will pay a thousand more than these prices , they will certainly try for it.

UPDATE : Personally visited this place. Popular with some punters , but over rated in my personal opinion. Other Massage joints listed on this page have just as good and even better girls and prices. There is a certain type of Monger who only sees beautiful girls when he is being charged 'beautiful' (silly) prices. Cause he pays top dollar he convinces himself the girls are 'special'. Dont be one of those fools , look objectively at the girls and decide for yourself .... "are they worth it" ..... answer in respect of Poseidon , for me : "no".

La Belle

Formerly Mona Lisa Massage Parlour in New Petchaburi Road (next to formerly Siam Hotel). Building was demolished , now new owners and management. Luxury Massage Parlour called La Belle. Still in its infancy and getting organised , but reports coming in say the girls there are above average looking. Baht500 Foreigner (Farang/Falang) surcharge applies. Varying prices from Baht2600 (most girls) to Baht5800 , plus the surcharge. They'd have to be extra beautiful at Bt5800 eh ? !

Most likely the taxi drivers get a Baht500 commission for bringing you to La Belle. This on top of the charges listed above. So , to avoid that ,catch MRT train service to Petchaburi Railway Station , take Exit 1 , walk straight ahead a few short metres to Petchaburi Road itself , turn left and 400/500 metres along Petchaburi Rd , past the Honda car sales you will find La Belle. Currently still in its infancy with only about 35 girls in stock.

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Overall : There are a multitude of Massage Parlours in Bangkok. Suggest you sample the tried and true ones outlined above , then venture to others later. However , if is recommended by a taxi driver , you can be sure he is going to get Baht500 commission , which you pay via an inflated massage price.

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Taxi Commission - No, it's not the name of a Massage Parlour : ) Although it would be appropriate, considering a lot of them pay the taxi drivers commission to bring you to their doorstep and then charge you inflated massage prices to cover the commission.

Remember, if you take a taxi to the front door of a massage parlour, the driver expects a commission from the proprietor. The parlour on most occasions is obliged to pay the driver a commission for the bringing the customer to them, even though you decided to go there without any prompting from the driver. This commission inflates the price of a massage significantly, and can actually run into the hundreds, and thus is best avoided. The idea is to be dropped near the parlour without the driver knowing the parlour is your destination. To be dropped near, you need some landmarks and request driver to drop you at the landmark , and not the parlour .

Massage ? says the driver. No, says the experienced whorist. Then when the taxi has taken off, backtrack to the parlour. Alternatively, get out of the taxi and prop in the first place that serves beer and sit and have a cold beer whilst waiting for the taxi driver to knick off. Its a game, dont let the taxi’s get the better of you on this one. Add’s to the fun of whoring touring and helps your budget no end.

If necessary say to mama-san - "no taxi, what’s your prices", then she’ll know your looking for a good price. Quite often, if a parlour does not pay a taxi commision, as in the case of Annies and others mentioned above , the driver will plead that he doesnt know the place and try and steer you towards a taxi commission parlour of his choice. Your the buyer , its always YOUR choice that matters.

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Other places in BANGKOK where you can find

HOOKERS for SEX :

EXPENSIVE BORDELLO - ESCORT type ladies

Pegasus Club :

In Thailand, the Lady House to beat all lady houses (?). Some call it an Escort Agency. Grandeur and garish opulence at its best/worst , and you pay for it. Sex - those that I know, all say it's ‘great’ . Would you admit otherwise , if you paid big bucks to get it ? : )

Location - 112 Sukhumvit 23, Soi Prasamitr. Catch Sky train to Asok E4 Train Station. Walk along Soi.23, past Soi Cowboy on your left and an Italian Restaurant on your right. Turn into first Soi on your right. Pegasus is a short walk (1/150mtrs ?)down on the right hand side. You can’t miss it. Set back from the road , white pillars and grandeur. Up the steps and through the main door. You will be greeted by a number of sophisticated ladies including the mama/papa-san.

Mamasan quoted to me ST prices as follows: PR (Public Relations) girl - 1700; SL (Sideliner/Sailai) 2200; Model 3200. Double those figs for All Night. So if you took a Model All Night it would cost you 6400 plus 2700 initial drinks plus Tip the next morning, in the order of 1000 I suppose. Tips are definitely in the "up to you" category. If you give Baht2/500 to other girls then these girls would be expecting 1000 min I suggest. Total outlay for a Model = Baht 10,000 , at a gestimate. Note : Prices never stand still. They rarely go down , but do go up : )

See my Update below.

Think these girls are actually trained (as in a school) to provide mature/sophisticated sex service. Good lookers ? - Supposedly so, but guys who pay big bucks only see what they want to see - 'classy'/expensive looking ladies. I tried and failed to have a look at them without spending big bucks. See Wednesday Waffle Article .3. 8th May 2002 titled - "Stolen Photo's" , for more details of what I experienced when I entered Pegasus ( incl's photo's , outside of bldg only).

Membership - Some say if you join (Baht60,000 for 3 years) the sex is not so expensive.

From a cynics viewpoint, I say you pay for the expensive real estate , decor and expensive clothes and sophistication of the ladies and not their beauty or talent in bed. But there are some guys around who only think the ladies are beautiful if they pay a beautiful (expensive) price. Not me : )

How about you trot along there and send in your report ? : )

UPDATE : I finally 'gate crashed' this place , paid Bt900 for a beer and saw the Merchandise. Disappointed. They were typical pretty massage parlour girls , nothing more. Also the figs mama quoted me , it would cost around Bt11,000 to have one drink , her one drink and then out the door for an all nighter. Are they worth it ? Certainly not , says me. Thats the equivalent of x 6 pretty massage girls ! See "Fishin for Fun - 2" (NEW pages) for more details (incl. pic) on my 'inspection' of this place. Think you will find your beer is still Bt900 and a Ladies Drink is Bt900 ! Forget it folks , its a joke.

This is a typical 'high class' place , with high class prices , but girls no different to others elsewhere. Your paying for the massive building , expensive interior and furniture , high rents and pseudo-sophistication. All of which you can not fuck : )

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FALANG/FOREIGNER STYLE 'LADY HOUSES':

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Soi. 7/1. "EDENS" -

Pic of outside in "Fishin for Fun - 2" (NEW page/link).

Edens is a Fantasy House of sorts , with Toys , Costumes (Fetish Lingerie/Uniforms etc). A controversial place. It seems that those who like the place are forever defending it against those who do not like it. Controversy is good for business , hence no doubt a lot of punters go there out of curiosity to see for themselves what it's like : )

Those that like the place say : The sex is great.

Those that do NOT like the place say : The gals are not pretty and are on the older side and that good sex can be found elsewhere for less.

I've come across more of those that are in favour than against the place. Not my scene , never personally tried it.

Seems to me , if you want something different (uniforms/toys/hard core etc) and are not worried about the prices and the more 'maturer' ladies on offer , give it a try.

Located in Soi.7/1 (use Maps above , eg Map No.1 as a reference point). Not Soi.7. itself, but further up towards Soi .9.. It’s a lane in between Soi.7 and Soi.9 and Edens is located approx 100 metres in from Suk’ on the right hand side. Hours 12.30pm Noon to 12midnight. Best selection times : 1pm to 10pm. Naturally , 1pm best.

It's B3600 for two girls , 90 mins , room for this included. You have to pay Bt3600 even if you only take one girl , same price. It's a two girl scene on offer here. No exceptions to this '2' policy. Except you can take one , but still pay for two : )

For take-away (back to your Hotel) it's Bt3600 (2 girls) 90 mins , during hours of 1pm to 10pm. Then there is after 10pm , when you can take-away one girl. Finish time for this girl is 6am next morning, Bt3000. Take her away for 24hrs and its Bt7000.

You can not sit around and drink beers , perving on the ladies whilst you make up your mind. Management expects you to make up your mind re which one you are taking , after one drink.

Compare sexy massage for Baht 1700 2 hrs at a place like Annies , a short walk away (See Massage Notes above). PS : Not everyone likes Annies , just like not everyone likes Edens. No one establishment can please all the customers all the time : )

To each his own , if you go to Edens and get your rocks off and see it as value , then that is all you need : )

Edens website : www.edenclub-bkk.com has been removed from the Internet for 'politically correct' reasons. Alternative way to contact Edens : edenpapa@ksc.th.com ........... hope that email address still works as there is a new owner , but same Manager.

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"Escorts Bangkok" - Ive put this one in here cause apparently they are doing a similar (but not the same) scene as Edens (listed above). That is school costumes/fantasy and the like , and most importantly you do not have to take two girls. Not sure of the price but believe works out cheaper cause only one girl involved. For details : www.escorts-bangkok.com (not to be confused with 'bangkok escorts'). Apparently Edens still reigns supreme when it comes to the better sex. It's subjective , perhaps you should try both : ) UPDATE : Havent heard about 'Escorts' in ages. Check their website first.

Soi .1. "Club.1" ,aka , "No.1 Gentlemans Club" -

UPDATE : Read update below first.

About 4/500 metres in from Sukhumvit Road on the right hand side. It has a shop appearance with curtains and the words "Karaoke" out the front. Hours 6pm - 2am , about 12 regular looking girls at Baht 2000 , 90 mins on the premises or Baht 4000 LT , take away. The owner is trying to create the impression of a Lounge Bar ..... ie some sophistication. Personally , I do not pay for the furniture/gift wrapping , I pay for babes with young healthy bodies , and at 4000 LT , and not especially good looking , this place does not represent value for me. Maybe if you visited the place you would see it through more favourable eyes ?

UPDATE : It's 'character' , layout etc may have changed since the above info was written. Management might be experiencing problems with the Authorities too. No one talks about this place nowadays. Not a good sign : ) Check their website ( www.numberonebangkok.com ) where you might gleen more info. Otherwise , forget it : )

ART BARS/LOUNGES :

NOTE : I have not visited these places for yonks. Masochists talk a bit about them , otherwise not really mentioned. Not value. If you like pseudo sophistication , its for you : )

Soi . 33 - . 6pm - 1am . You can walk to this area from Soi Cowboy/Pegasus but not from Soi.4. Too far. Suggest you catch the Sky train to Phrom Phong E5 Station and backtrack a little to Soi.33.

ATTENTION !

I do not recommend these overpriced Soi 33 bars , where you have to pay for each drink as it arrives otherwise you risk being ripped off.

These places are not cheap. Bar Fine Bt1500 - Bt2500 or possibly even more !, plus .... ST2000/3000 , LT3000/5000 is typical.

Can cost more earlier in night , can be less later in the night. Your paying for the pseudo sophistication and decor when you visit the Art Bars/Lounges. Same girls can be found elsewhere without the expensive dress and atmosphere for a lot less. Also , there is no guarantee the gal will go with you , even if you have paid the 'bar fine' , and if she does go with you to a Restaurant/Disco , whether or not she'll go to your room later on and have sex. Also note : BJ's are not normally on the menu with these type of girls. Of course handsome guys score better :) Me being a regular guy (no hunk ) 'pretence places' like this are not for me or anyone else who can see through the veneer of sophistication and silly prices.

Paying the barfine does not guarantee that the lady goes with you, or if she goes with you that she does the deed . Some of these ladies are ‘companions’ only. Check this out before paying a bar fine. My suggestion is buy one Ladies Drink only and see if you can meet the gal next day (before she starts work) , avoiding the expensive Bar Fine.

"Monet" , "The Office" and "Renoir" are the long standing popular ones. Some other bars in Soi.33 pad their bills etc. Beware , regardless of the Bar your sitting in. Christies and Napoleon are particularly bad in respect of padded bills.

If you want to go with a buddy and sip a few beers in a 'classy' environment , smile and chat with expensively dressed girls , then go for it. Otherwise stick to other places listed on this website. Continued .....

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You will find out by reading the following , I do not like these 'Art Bars'.

Chits/Bills ... you will see I keep saying "watch your chits/bills". Such is necessary at Soi.33. , a sucker set up and thus sometimes sucker padded bills.

How to get there ... on exiting Suk’ Road and about 75mtrs down Soi.33 on left hand side is Christies Club (unpopular , padded bills/chits) , then a further 75 metres , more Art Bars on both sides of the street , with names like : Renoir (popular but watch chits/bills) ; Monet (popular) ; Goya (give a miss) ; Napoleon (not so popular anymore , possibility of padded bill/chit) ; 'Dali' etc. Dali watch your bills/chits. About 15/20 in all. Owners call them clubs , but punters call them Art Bars cause of their names.

Monet and Renoir (on right hand side before Monet) appear to be the more popular of the bunch (subjective). Renoir can be 'pushy' and watch the Ladies Drinks , they might try and rip you off at Renoir. Monet (and Dali above) can have padded bill probs though, watch it here and anywhere else in Soi.33 regardless if 'popular' or not. Best time, early in the evening before they jack up the price of drinks, 9pm on . Before 9pm YD Baht 90 , Baht 125/150 thereafter (ask before you order , prices are more likely to have gone up than down : ). *LD same as YD . After a set 45 minutes (varies , ask before hand) you have to buy another LD otherwise the Lady leaves you. Note : These prices might have increased recently.

"The Office". Not pushy (?) , and apparently nice gals , but this can change over time. Location - walking down Soi.33 past Novotel Lotus on your left , you will find a Soi (laneway) to your right. Turn into this Soi and at the end of and on the left is 'The Office'. Apparently worth the visit , and maybe even superior to Monet and Renoir (old favourites). Suggest you arrive 6 - 8pm when this place is most active.

Many of the ladies in Soi33 are in the 25-35 year age range. Pseudo sophistication and so expensive prices. For the curiously inclined masochist ? : ) Watch your bills. Pay for each drink as it arrives , alternatively check each bill/chit as it is slipped into your cup. If they are not showing you the bills for your drinks , as you go along , you are most probably being set up for a padded bill later on. Sophisticated people with 'class' are not supposed to check their bills are they , ha ha. These are the kind of places where your not supposed to be concerned about the cost. Consequently some of these Bars exploit that very fact and over charge/pad. Not value for money. Why pay above the rates for a gal just to ponce around in an evening gown ?

In my opinion , better sex attitude and good bodies for less elsewhere. For example , Massage Parlours. You can discretely meet Massage girls during the day or on their day off too , dont forget.

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Back to Soi 33 : Luciano's (some distance down on the left hand side) is popular with some and the girls reputedly have a better attitude , but that can not always be guaranteed. Kosu Mosu caters for the Japanese clientele and the girls are not so pretty. Fairy Club looks suspiciously gay. With a name like that , what else could it be ? : )

All my comments re 'popular' , 'pushy' etc are very subjective. Its trial and error , your favourite might be someone elses disappointment : )

Suggest you amble around , trying 'The Office' , Monet and Renoir first. They do not normally come in for as much criticism as the others.

UPDATE : Ladies Drinks. Most probably , after Happy Hour (9pm) , LD's cost more than Bt150 nowadays , a lot more : ) I won't be going there to find out. Waste of time for someone like me. I don't like pretending to be someone I'm not , talking to girls pretending to be somebody they are not too : )

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WASHINGTON SQUARE nightlife:

Location : Between Soi 22 and 24. Dubliner Bar is on the corner of Suk’ and a lane. Walk down that lane and your in Washington Square proper. There is only one Go-Go and that runs off Soi.22 on the right hand side, and set back off the road, called "Tina". Extremely dark and very dormant on my visit. Very few girls. Possibly defunct by now ? I will not be going back to find out : )

Washington Square is in reality a Beer Bar area. See Beer Bar Notes above, Soi 22 info.

UPDATE : Forget Washington Square. Waste of time nowadays.

REGULAR THAI STYLE LADY HOUSES :

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I dont know anything about regular Thai style Bangkok Lady Houses. Most , if not all , are quite often "off limits" to foreigners. Ask me about small city/town lady houses and yes I can tell you something. If any reader is a Bangkok Lady House fan, please share your knowledge and expertise with the rest of us. I know there are beauties locked away in these places, but young girls being locked away in a big city doesnt appeal to me and thus I am not so keen on visiting such places , in the first place. Especially when most of the girls can not speak English. My Thai is limited , not good enough for decent conversations. Lady Houses in Thailand are more of a prison , than any other LON' establishments I know of.

The most famous 'Lady House' (some call it an Escort Agency) is of course Pegasus (as explained above). Think the Pegasus ladies would have more freedom of movement than those in a typical Bangkok Lady House : ).

SHORT TIME HOTELS :

If I shag short time , its in my hotel , so do not know a lot about designer ST Hotels. Ask the girl you have chosen , she will know which one to use.

Playboy Hotel - Info I have been given : "No. 40 Sukhumvit Road, Soi 3 . Nana Nua Road/Street. Same road as Grace Coffee Shop , in fact behind Grace Hotel". Sounds a bit confusing I agree. Another friend said its : "In the road behind Grace which connects Soi.3. and Soi.11". Reportedly Baht 300/500 for three hours. Quite popular with ST punters. Ideal for a Bier Garten ST liaison.

PB Hotel - This could be Playboy Hotel , not sure. Reputedly Baht300 for two hours. Apparently not in same league as Playboy. Best to ask girl she will certainly know.

Star Inn Hotel - Another one convenient for Bier Garten/NEP/Thermae etc predators : Star Inn Hotel , Soi7/1 Bt300 one hour , Bt500 two hours , Bt700 3hrs. Note : Not Soi 7 , but Soi Soi7/1 . Coming from Soi.3 its the second Soi.7 sign you come across. (check sign posts).

I mentioned Taboo in the NEP Go-Go notes , as follows : Taboo ST Hotel - 1st Floor (UK) Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) , on right hand side , near the corner. Baht 300 standard room ; Baht 350 Deluxe (with bath tub) , two hours. (supposedly clean and modern). Used by the Katoeys employed at Casanova's (same floor, 30 metres away). Note : Price might have edged up. Update ... Last trip do not recall seeing it , yet must have walked passed it , if it was there. Perhaps they have move on.

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AFTER 1AM ACTION :

In times before you could hunt to 3/4am and beyond. Nowadays its best to secure your pussy before 1am closing comes into force.

To put it crudely , this website for newbies www.whorist.com is all about : ADULT TRAVEL seeking SEX with HOOKERS , ESCORTS , PROSTITUTES and YOUNG WOMEN located in : PICK UP JOINTS/MEETING PLACES incl. COFFEE SHOPS , RESTAURANTS , DISCO'S , BARS , PUBLIC PLACES etc and NIGHTCLUBS, GO-GO DANCE BARS , SEX MASSAGE PARLOURS , BORDELLO'S and OTHER PLACES where Ladies of the Night (LON's) frequent ........................ ENJOY !